A REAL and WORKING Magnetic Motor Spinning Indefinitely

Working Magnetic MotorOk, I saw this on Gizmodo (unexpectedly), and despite the fact that I’ve been blogging for five years now I’ve never actually seen something this amazing – the famous magnetic motor spinning by itself indefinitely, like this video shows.

Now, I don’t think there’s any trick involved, there couldn’t be, could it? Just watch the whole movie. If you see anything suspicious, let me know.

Magnetic motors have always fascinated me. I’ve even endorsed schematics of magnetic motors hoping that someday, someone will find the proper recipe and post it on youtube without being called names and accused of scamming people.

Of course, those magnets you see in the video will eventually wear out in years, but the concept is great – it could be applied even further with stronger magnets. Just see the video and shout your opinions out. I urge you to.

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  • joe charlie

    you are so full of crap……………lol………….i can smell you way over here!!!

  • Manley Beasley

    An uncalculatable number of astronomical bodies are floating in space, being pushed and pulled on the same path, rotating in the same direction without ceasing for billions of years at a time. However, we have a hard time beliving that the same electromagnetic and gravitational forces can spin a small wooden wheel? Humans have a long way to go; it’s about time we open up our minds a bit. “That’s impossible!” Is it really? Look around you.

    Some of these videos may well be faked experiments, but to say this is impossible? Naivete.

  • Gerald Rowley

    It does serve a purpose, it stimulates the mind of those who think outside the box!!

  • Alvin Cunningham

    Lol, guess all of you by now have seen this exposed on YouTube. This model DOES NOT work. However, I done some research and experiments myself with a slightly different magnet. Magnet’s work best when made to push each other, NOT pull. I’m sure some of you are familiar with speaker magnet’s. They have a doughnut shape. Their north and south very different in many ways. Depending on how you lay them when flat they will push or pull each other. If you lay them in the pull position on a disc and spin them they WILL stop. However, if you lay them in the push position and spin them in opposite directions of each other they will run in opposite directions of each other until you stop them. I used two small biscuit motors out of an old CD player and they put out 2.5v at the speed the magnet’s were turning. I hooked them hot to ground leaving myself one pos+ and one neg-. Off these I was able to get 5v. Enough to make a device to charge my wife’s cell phone. She takes it showing it off to everyone. It’s about the size of the small CD player I started with. I personally DO NOT CARE WHAT YOU NAY SAYER’S THINK, I know this one work’s.

  • BuddySteve

    It takes just as much force to bring a magnet close to the same pole as another magnet as what you get when you allow it to push away. 1 + (-1) = 0, it never will equal +1. Just not possible!

  • Landon Blackledge

    People I’m sorry. I want to believe that machines like this exist but they just can’t. The sooner people realize this and start devoting their curiosity to furthering real alternate forms such as wind and solar the faster our technology will progress. Don’t take my word for it though, I was obsessed with believing this type of machine would work and wouldn’t believe skeptics at all for a great deal of my life. In fact the word I would use to describe my feelings towards them would be hatred until I started taking physics classes in college, learned a little about magnetic fields, and attempted to make a magnetic driven motor myself. It’s a simple design, if you really want to know the truth just make one yourself. Until then do the scientific world a favor and stop verbalizing your assumptions. Since doing the study and finding out that I was wrong I have taken my own advice and only discuss my opinions aggressively after I have proven to myself that what I believe is the truth. The technology doesn’t work because no matter what you do you can not make a uni-pole magnet, meaning that you can not make a magnet with a positive end without a negative and so what happens is that yes the wheel is technically propelled by the equal polar end of the still magnet but almost just as instantaneously it is attracted to the opposite end. The wheel not only stops, it becomes locked into place from the attraction of the two magnets. And before you tell me that I don’t know what I’m talking about or that I didn’t do it right I urge you to conduct the experiment yourself. It doesn’t matter how simple or how complex you design it, it won’t work!

    • Chris Alun Lloyd

      lol its so simple its mind boggling I completely agree Landen^^^.To everyone else: IT DOES NOT WORK. The friction produced by the arm hitting both movable magnets would slowly decrease the amount of force given by the first spin. Gauss principle is very interesting but does not provide perpetual motion. Familiarize yourself with it and it may make more sense. Also there is no engine that runs on “anything” in Russia and there is no such thing as e+ cold fusion(yet) and yes we have landed on the moon. Also no you do not need that aluminum foil hat. I cant stop laughing Landon!!!! This made me ACTUALLY LOL!!!! Why did we waste this much finger movement?????

    • louie nilsson

      Is there a way to change the change the attraction of a magnet. Sorry in advance if this is a dumb question, im a 9th grader in high school

      • http://staggeringbeauty.com Landon Blackledge

        Louie, no question is a dumb question. The universe has a comical way of keeping things in check. Their are certain laws that many scientists claim to understand but at the end of the day we just have to accept that they are what they are (although I’m not one to believe that these laws aren’t meant to be broken; every now and then someone comes along and changes the way we look at things and if you pursue a career in the sciences you could become one of these people) anyways as far as your question I will answer it with a story. Let’s say I had a simple bar magnet( the most generic of magnets) and I were to break it in half right down the middle. Instead of having 1 positive pole and 1 negative pole like I did to start with I will now have 2 separate magnets, the broken sections becoming the compliment of the unbroken sections. So now I will have 2 positive poles and 2 negative polls. I can keep doing this over and over but every time I do it will just be squaring my current amount of magnets.

        What you’re suggesting actually has a scientific term, or rather I should say science fiction, because the fundamental laws of the universe forbid it from happening. It would be a uni-pole magnet.

    • Mx9skyz

      what if you used two still magnets? with ONLY the positive poles facing the centre magnet? that way the positive force would be greater than that of the negative force (because the ratio would be 3:1)

      • http://staggeringbeauty.com Landon Blackledge

        Don’t try to convince me; convince yourself. If you’re really interested in seeing if your idea will work try making a small prototype.

  • Tsu Nami

    If friction is an issue why not make the main wheel levitate magnetically so there’s no friction? And I don’t see any evidence that it’s a hoax, the basic idea seems to me to make sense…

  • SeeRexx

    To all the narrow minded, this is not perpetual motion, energy is continuously repleted in the magnet from the magnetic field of the Earth. It will last about 400 years for the magnets to wear off.
    Just tell me why the magnets on your fridge do not fall off? There is much energy required to stick on the metal, where does it come from? Magnetic energy is amazing!
    This motor is speed limited by the gravity driven upper magnet. On a bigger design, with lets say 4 or 8 generators in parallel, with a little electric gate with feedback to control the speed, coupled with a dynamo, the output electricity would be greater than the small input, maybe 4 to 6 times greater as we can find on youtube… On other kind of design…. Surely enough for a hair blower! ūüėČ

    • Chris Alun Lloyd

      Oh my….. Energy is all around us you just have to see it through the right lens. I think those of us in need of power and paying for it are the ones blaming the “big energy companies”. I have my home built batteries and solar array. I skimped and bought a windmill. There are solutions you just need to open your eyes. I do not pay one cent for my power :)

  • lakawak

    You REALLY don’t see how there could be any trick involved? In what is the most well understood hoaxes around? A simple air compressor off camera blowing the wheel to make it turn. Which is why they NEVER allow you to hear the sound.

  • er

    Of course this is false. Perpetual machines are impossible in practice due to friction.

  • jargshon

    Hey I was wondering what that thing is with metal loop circles around it with a ball or something in the middle of it there may not be a ball in it but I know it’s a model and it sets up and spins

  • Todd

    This is fake, what you dont see is the compressed air blowing on it to spin it. you can clearly see it slow down right before the video ends.

  • DarinSelby

    valveman00 gemmakermz Do you want to get something for nothing?  Then tap into that big ole fireball in the sky and artificial photosynthesis, storing the hydrogen gas.

    • QKodiak

      Why waste 70% of the energy just to store it in a novel way (hydrogen)? Hydrogen is not an economically viable or efficient way to store energy. Also, compressed hydrogen is extremely dangerous. HFC vehicles have a large powertrain taking up much space inside a vehicle reducing practicality, their performance is abysmal, their safety is dubious, and their efficiency is no better than a gas-powered vehicle’s.

      Solar? Yes. Hydrogen? Absolutely not.

  • RicepullernahiPartynahi

    http://www.ricepullers.in/FANSI09425636422 + 09981011455rice puller nahi hota he party ki ma ki chootÔĽŅ

  • http://myridia.com/ veto64

    i would like to buy a small moter like this for fun.
    is there anywhere a site where i can buy those small devices.
    i don’t have the time to do the handicrafts by myself.
    thanks for link

  • AdrianDwerryhouse

    so rather then the two i’ll call them kick magnets top and bottom would having more, ie: either side, increase the speed or help with smoother spin.

    • lakawak

      Nope. There is no configuration, strength, or amount of magnets that would make this spin even ONE full turn.

  • pablo

    Would like to add some info here if it helps. ¬†All of the magnets in that device operate in the repulsion mode. ¬†The top magnet is polarized at its ends and repels the “armature” magnets. ¬†The repulsion is strongest for the most widely spaced spaced armature magnets and weakest for the narrowest spacing. ¬†If the top magnet were not raised, the armature would abruptly stop rotating at the transition from narrowest to widest spacing. ¬†However, when top magnet is moved upward by the cam at the transition point, it is also repelled in the upward direction by the widely-spaced magnets. ¬†As the armature passes that point, gravity pulls the magnet downward, repeating the cycle. ¬†Note a similar process for the cam-operated shorter magnet at the bottom of the armature. ¬†The magnets are all neodymium-iron-boron. ¬†It would take thousands of years for them to be demagnetized down to half power.

    • lakawak

      IT doesn’t matter. The amount of energy required to life the arm is more than you get out. Which is why…without compressed air blowing on it…this won’t spin even one time.

  • 1971xz

    THE PLAN:http://linoavac.no.sapo.pt/exafilar.jpg
    detail equivalente PLAN: http://linoavac.no.sapo.pt/electrorepulsion2.jpg

    educational site (plasma, gravity, vortex, magnet motors, …)
    vídeo explain principle OF PLANS :https://www.youtube.com/embed/9FsFNbx0AWE
    it is kick magnet by coil in the jump

  • 1971xz

    THE PLAN:http://linoavac.no.sapo.pt/exafilar.jpg

    educational site and plans
    learn for all
    vídeo explain principle :https://www.youtube.com/embed/9FsFNbx0AWE
    it is kick magnet by coil in the jump

  • jamiepusceddu

    ahahahahahah! I’ve just seen the oak on google. It was like I suspected. No Nobel price this time but a very good oak though!

  • jamiepusceddu

    I read more comments and someone argued that the motion is produced by the white weight being dropped down after having been lifted by an external force (the experimenter’s hand). That makes sense but you have to account for frictions there too so the device should stop at some point and it doesn’t in any reasonable time in the video so I believe there is a trick. Some external hidden power sources like a compressor or airflow. But it’s very well disguised I must admit. By all accounts if such a device works the author should be applying for a Nobel prize. Why doesn’t it come out for the honour?

  • jamiepusceddu

    I’m thinking: wouldn’t be possible that the video is genuine but as soon as you start to extract some power from the device you stop it so it doesn’t run any longer? I’m not versed in Physics so don’t make fun of me. I know this is against the 2 principle of Thermodynamic

    • lakawak

      No..it is not possible at all. Perpetual motion is not possible. Therefore, any device claiming to be perpetual motion is not genuine.

  • 1971xz
  • 1971xz

    educational site and plans
    learn for all

  • valveman00

    gemmakermz  Gravity is magnetic?  Where did you get that idea?

  • gemmakermz

    for those whom say not posible to make a magnetic motor– your living on one. our solar syster is run/controlled by magnetic forces. the earth itself is a magnetic motor, its been running for a VERY long time taking 24hrs to revolve and 365 days for the travel around the sun. dont forget gravity is also magnetic in a different form. so mag motor already exists, now put your brains to work and make one that will put the oil barons out of buisnes.

    • lakawak

      This is an INSANELY ignorant take on the universe.

    • Luke Day

      Gravity is not magnetism, sorry but you are very wrong here, based on current scientific knowledge. Newton’s Law of universal gravitation states that bodies of matter attract other bodies of matter, known as gravity (not magnetism). However this was later trumped by Einstein’s Theory of General Relativity, which states that matter distorts space-time itself and therefore smaller bodies of matter, such as our Earth compared with our Sun, are actually falling straight into the space-time distortion (bending of space) caused by the body of matter.

  • 1971xz

    educational site and plans
    learn for all
    video :https://www.youtube.com/embed/9FsFNbx0AWE
    it is kick magnet by coil in the jump

  • LiveLikeNo1

    I was imagining how you could advance the timing of the upper magnet in order to create much more momentum. This seems like a reality to me.

  • botwire

    Your not creating energy, it’s is changing forms. Magnetic energy to mechanical energy. As long as the momentum has enough energy to lift the bar magnet to complete the cycle it would work. If lifting the bar magnet uses up all the stored momentum energy, it will not work.

    • lakawak

      There is no such thing as “magnetic energy.” Know why? Because magnets are not batteries. They don’t store energy. They have magnetic fields…which is a FORCE. IT is not energy. Since they don’t have energy, there is no energy you can extract from them. If there was, there would be a mathematical formula to determine how much energy you could get out of it. But there isn’t a formula like that.

      What is crazy is that this is a JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL concept. And if you don’t even understand that level of science, then why are you commenting on this?

  • dwkthedogbreaths

    Isn’t there a film of a guy who has a larger magnetic engine driving his car. 90 per cent of the energy drives the wheels and lights etc and the extra one p.c goes to keep the engine running. I’ve seen film of his car driving across America and wold be very sad if it was a hoax. He will send details of how to build one if his engines to anyone who cares t write to him.

    • lakawak

      Then you should be very sad. Because it is a hoax.

  • Chris

    In the description on the Youtube page for that video, the uploader added the following, explaining it to be a hoax:

    “ACTUALIZACI√ďN (20/03/2013) En las fotos se observa que tiene un compresor de aire:
    Gracias por los comentarios.
    El aparato tiene un compresor de aire encima, dando la ayuda necesaria para que gire.
    It has an air compressor above it.”
    Google Translate:
    “UPDATE (20/03/2013) In the photos is seen to have an air compressor:
    Thanks for the feedback.
    The apparatus has an air compressor on top, giving the necessary help to rotate.
    It has an air compressor above it.”

  • http://www.jerewindependentresearch.com/ LoneWolffe

    scarednick¬†true, adding energy to the system, lifting the magnet by hand, points out exactly why this won’t work.

  • scarednick

    Well from where I (sit) there are “linear motors” and “linear motors”. Which ones do you reckon work?

  • scarednick

    REALLY? Indefinitely? 5 seconds? Sorry old thing this video has been around far longer than Feb 2013 and has been debunked by millions (although grasped at by …sadly….many more). It is a hodge-podge (as are sthe majority of these either fraud or crackpot claims) of “stuff that does work”..that illustrates nothing, “stuff that LOOKS as if it works” (which may or may not support the final claims) and….utter garbage, which IS used to support the final claims. You are obviously looking for that5 pot of gold and it MAY be found, but I doubt that ib these days it will be in a garage. Those days have passed.

  • scarednick

    You guys are talking about two different things. Yves is talking about manually lifting and lowering the magnet, which _arguably_ makes that machine work, I want to see a real demo and try for myself….Lone, you are talking about the cam-operated one. It does not work and is a fake. And it IS doing work…anything that moves requires energy, so IF that machine actually kept going, WITHOUT outside energy applied, it would be creating energy. Bujt we see a few seconds of video (hardly perpetual) of a machine that has quite erratic speeds, while supposedly under the influence of a constant force (its own system).

  • scarednick

    But surely the “motor” can run backwards if you use repulsion intsead of attraction. But yes I agree that the last one is a fake, because (apart from the obvious)¬† I have DLd this video and looked at it frame by frame, confirming what seems to happen: the rotor changes speed erratically throughout….and not just over each revolution.

  • Bob the Builder

    from Bob the builder…¬† Didn’t anyone notice that the working model in the video was running backwards?¬† The principle of the hand powered model is that the magnets want to be closer together, so in the influence of the metal bar that closes the magnetic field, the force pulling the magnets toward the bar rotates the drum to the place where the magnets are closer together.¬† Picudo is correct about where the energy comes from in the hand powered model.¬† The working model is obviously a fake, easily done with a jet of air or some more complicated method.¬† On another note:¬† permanent magnets don’t run down, that’s why they are called permanent!¬† Heat will damage them by melting the structure and collapsing the alinement, but making them do work, if possible, wouldn’t damage them.

    • lakawak

      Permanent magnets are not called permanent magnets because they don’t run down. They are called permanent magnets to distinguish them from electromagnets that can be switched on and off, or reversed at all.

  • Picudo Jones

    The energy to move the wheel simply comes from the¬†kinetic energy of the moving hand, not¬†“from” magnetism.¬†¬† If¬†the person did not move the magnet¬†the Wheel¬†wouldn’t move.¬† It’s simply like pushing the Wheel with your hand, only through magnetic forc√©.¬† No strange miracle here.

  • QuantumSlipstream

    Interesting, however the magnets themselves unless “recharged” using a renewable source just become a form of energy storage.
    One possible workaround would be the use of a radioactive isotope such as 63Ni in the magnet to continuously regenerate the field..

    • lakawak

      Magnets don’t store energy.

      • Patrick Buick

        I was confused by your statement at first, and then I realized. Just like other potential energies, the energy isn’t exactly stored by the item itself, but by the situation. Much like water in a high reservoir is used to “store” potential energy for later conversion to electricity, the water by itself, removed from the high reservoir doesn’t store that energy. Similarly, the magnet doesn’t store energy per-se, but can be made to have potential energy by virtue of its’ situation by placement near another magnet or a magnetic material. The magnet does store something – a potential – the separation of magnetic poles which creates / defines its’ magnetism and it is this, when in a particular situation, that has the potential energy.

        • lakawak

          You are confused by a lot more than that. Magnets have no energy. They don’t have kinetic energy and they don’t have potential energy. They don’t have energy period. Magnetic have a magnetic field…that is a FORCE. Force is not energy. It is NOTHING like water being stored at a higher elevation waiting to be used when it falls to a lower elevation.

          Tell me something…if magnets are stored energy, then give me the formula for converting a magnet’s strength to energy. Because if it had energy, they would be one. Just as you can tell how much energy you would get from a set quantity of water if you know how far it will fall.

          I know a lot of non-scientists such as yourself see two magnets move away from each other when you push one closer to it. But do you know what is making that second magnet move? YOU. The energy YOU put into the system with your hand moving the first magnet.

          Magnets can only be used to CONVERT energy from one form to another. It is GREAT to use magnets to convert that falling water energy (that is in a form that humans generally can’t use all that much) into electricity via a magnetic generator. But again…that generator is using the energy from the falling water..NOT the magnets. And, of course, the energy that you get out of the generator is less than what the falling water puts in.

          I honestly don’t understand why people still comment with statements like yours. IF you think that, then you clearly are not interested in science. You clearly haven’t taken a science class since junior high school. So if you are not interested in science, why are you commenting on a science article?

  • http://www.jerewindependentresearch.com/ LoneWolffe

    Yves Laurin¬†that’s why it looks so compelling. i think i would try to change the cam arrangement, which seems to take too much away from the motion of the rotor. perhaps some shielded portion of the top magnet? i don’t know.
    on the other hand, even IF this works, what good is it unless you can attach something to it to make use of the motion? unless that happens, it remains a visual oddity. :/

  • Yves Laurin

    In a way it make sense, he start with a linear motor, we all know it does work, the problem happen when you fold it to make it round, as it reach the end/start point, it will normally just stop there and that is why he his lifting the other magnet, if the force to lift the magnet is small compare to the momentum, it could work in theory

    • lakawak

      A linear motor like that doesn’t work. All he is doing is imputing energy with his muscles by pushing the magnet.

  • JPRichardson

    Sorry, this is fake. And I do not work for some evil corporation, it is just that magnets do not produce work.

  • TracyMGreen

    Genius, however how to create enough force to convert to energy that can be used.  It will need to be 100 tines larger.  A perpetual turbine.

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  • sjors

    question is: isnt the energy thats needed to magnetize magnets greater than the energy we see here in movement?

    • lakawak

      If you had 1 trillion of the world’s strongest magnets that stayed magnetized forever, you could still not get this to work.