Schematic of How to Build a Magnetic Motor
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By on July 17th, 2008 |
- Perendev’s magnetic motor
I am dealing with true inventions every day. I am also seeing a lot of hoaxes in my daily quest to alternative energy. I have learned that energy is not free, perpetual motion machines do not exist, everything is taken from somewhere and put elsewhere. There also is this so-called “free energy“, the zero-point energy, proven by many scientists. My duty as a green optimistic is to collect everything I see someone has struggled explaining and demonstrating, put it in one place and let the people see and comment.
Also, there are “green pessimistic” . When they see something out of “common sense” boundaries, they freak out and scream something “omg, this can’t be real! I need no proof! I must not think of this! Perish, Satan!”
I took such an article today as an inspiration because it talks about a magnetic to mechanical energy converter, one of my favourite subjects, about I haven’t heard much lately.
Here is the whole process of transforming the magnetic energy into mechanical energy, explained by the invetion’s author (Sandeep Acharya):
“Think of Two Powerful Magnets. One fixed plate over rotating disk with North side parallel to disk surface, and other on the rotating plate connected to small gear G1. If the magnet over gear G1’s north side is parallel to that of which is over Rotating disk then they both will repel each other. Now the magnet over the left disk will try to rotate the disk below in (think) clock-wise direction.
Now there is another magnet at 30 angular distance on Rotating Disk on both side of the magnet M1. Now the large gear G0 is connected directly to Rotating disk with a rod. So after repulsion if Rotating-Disk rotates it will rotate the gear G0 which is connected to gear G1. So the magnet over G1 rotate in the direction perpendicular to that of fixed-disk surface. Now the angle and teeth ratio of G0 and G1 is such that when the magnet M1 moves 30 degree, the other magnet which came in the position where M1 was, it will be repelled by the magnet of Fixed-disk as the magnet on Fixed-disk has moved 360 degrees on the plate above gear G1. So if the first repulsion of Magnets M1 and M0 is powerful enough to make rotating-disk rotate 30-degrees or more the disk would rotate till error occurs in position of disk, friction loss or magnetic energy loss.
The space between two disk is just more than the width of magnets M0 and M1 and space needed for connecting gear G0 to rotating disk with a rod. Now I’ve not tested with actual objects. When designing you may think of losses or may think that when rotating disk rotates 30 degrees and magnet M0 will be rotating clock-wise on the plate over G2 then it may start to repel M1 after it has rotated about 25 degrees, the solution is to use more powerful magnets. If all the objects are made precisely with measurements given and the rectangular cubic magnets are powerful enough to rotate more then 30 degrees in first repulsion then the system will work.
Here friction and other losses are neglected as magnets are much more powerful. But think of friction between rotating disk and Shaft, it can be neglected by using magnetic joint between them.
On the left primary measurements of needed objects are given. If you find any reason of not running this mechanism let me know.”
It seems to me that this is basically the Perendev magnetic motor presented in the same-named category of this blog.
What do you think? Could it work?
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Jul 20th, 2008 at 8:15 pm
Hello all,
Let me make something clear first. I am a “believer” in magnetic motors (from studying the data and knowing people who have replicated them), and there MANY designs that have been proven to work using only magnetism as the prime force. I have a series of articles that touches on the subject: “Free Energy and the Open Source Energy Movement”. The latest “Part 3″ being here (with many links including to the earlier installments there):
Having said that, the Perendev motor has not yet been proven to work. And several well-tried replications of it have not yet worked either. I hope in the future that it is found to work, but in this particular case, caution is advised.
Adams, Johnson, Kawai, and several other inventors have built magnetic motors that did work. One that is actually trying to be marketed now is the “Lutec Ltd.” device from Australia. Another is the “Magforce” 300 H.P. motor from the Shinean Corp. in Korea.
So the subject is REAL, and some will be hitting the marketplace, but we just need to watch some of these devices a little closer before getting excited yet
Aug 4th, 2008 at 9:46 pm
Jibbguy,
Nice article. We are builders and contractors and have a great deal of interest in energy saving devices. We have won the Grand Aurora Award for Energy in the SE Region of the US for 2005, 2006, and 2007.
We would be appreciative of any info you could share with us. We have done some research but need direction. We will check on the mfgr’s you have listed above.
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Sep 7th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
I just got the idea from very basic testing work from linear to apply in circle, I will give the update to you about 1 month from this after create the prototype.
Sep 22nd, 2008 at 7:34 am
Hi,
I have a strong theory with me.But I am unable to realise it due to the unavailability of the materials.Can anyone tell me where I can get permanent magnets.
Regards,
Thomas
Oct 5th, 2008 at 10:24 pm
Dear Magnetic Motor beleivers, i recently came across your info re magnetic motors.I have have been working on this idea for many years and have only just finished the drawings which i have sent to the patent office. I was a little dismayed to see an inventor in Australia who has already put one of these units into a car and drives it around.A friend of mine told me to look at U TUBES comments which i am now doing and i find a lot of info which i never knew existed.What prompted me to look into this project is that from past college education i know we are surrounded by so many forms of energy that we are not using, at least we can see magnets working.I also believe that by removing large amounts of Fossil fuel material from large areas on the Planet that we are unbalancing the rotation of the world. Anyway , i am glad to see that others are pursuing the use of Magnets as an energy source and i wish all of these inventors the best of luck.Sincerely NORMAN LEIGH
Oct 6th, 2008 at 11:42 pm
I am facinated with the idea of a magnetic motor. I contacted Perendev to get a quote regarding the cost of their motors. They will lease them only. I have found some information about another company which is named cycclone. I am waiting to hear if they are selling their motors. I would love to see the link to the car that was mentioned earlier to operate with such a motor.
Oct 8th, 2008 at 3:19 am
One of us is thinking inside the box, and it’s not me.
Let’s see. Infinite energy. Well then, nothing created,
nothing wasted. Right ? Wrong, something created, in the case of your (in the box) thinking: energy. Then, nothing wasted, right ? Well, wrong again ! Waste not created, but trash converted from whatever to pollute, waste, cola-pola empty containers, burgie boxes, newspapers, straws, waste package, used CDs, DVDs, cigarette butts, paper ads, sandals & old sneakers, Pacific/Atlantic/Indian gyre trash collectors everywhere, destroy, warm, too much energy, not enough time to recycle all those used tires, poisons in the air: the result of applying infinite energy. That simple. Yours is a vision of greed, uncontrolled greed, childish greed.
The ‘whatever’ above is our planet, used up by greedy, munchy monkeys. Your vision is worthless, useless. Y’all talking to a child that exists only in your head. Nowhere else. Grow up.
Ours is a fascinating universe, but you will never see its wonders along that road, only its horrors. It’s very sad.
Oct 11th, 2008 at 2:48 am
I see it this way. I have always been told the for every action in the universe there is an equal but oposite reaction. So with that said. ElectroMagnet = Magnetricity. The earth creates a magnetic field do to its rotation? Lightining created when particles get charged in the atmosphere? Is the earth also subject to these laws of thermal dynamics I keep reading about. Is the earth a pupetual motion machine if not when will it wear out before or after the Sun. I believe there are a lot of theories about this all but no one really knows. Do I believe we can get extremly low cost energy yes. This planet we live on provides it every day. Just think what would happen to the stock markets of the world if we someday we figured out how to create energy for next to nothing in our homes (there is always the cost of production) Commodities Gold, Silver, Oil, Copper, Zinc would not be worth as much. Utility stocks would completely crash. Gasoline Stations would cease to exist no longer needed. If we are going to create this free energy, cold fushion then we have to be prepared for it’s consequences. Tesla work was stopped because of one simple reason Economics. We all need to be paid for the energy we create and we all most pay 100+ times the cost of energy we consume so that the Economies of the world still move. There is always going to be a trade off somewhere. I do not think the stock markets of the world have tanked enough yet for any of us out here to take them on with free (low cost) energy. We still have to purchase all the materials from those who already have the energy.
Oct 13th, 2008 at 8:35 am
I like how people don’t want to believe in the magnetic motor designs because the math says it cant work. What’s funny is that we made up math. Math is a human invention. Therefore it’s limited and flawed. It can not be all encompassing and complete and it’s guaranteed to be faulty. That’s just how things are and those who make their decisions based on math need to understand that there can be exceptions. (I’m focusing on math because it seems to be the most common excuse people use to try and derail and thoughts of the magnet motors.) Exceptions exist you must believe that. Other wise the bee would not fly.
Oct 13th, 2008 at 9:33 pm
Hello Everyone,
Please dont forget Howard Johnson’s Patent 4,151,431 which was approved April 24, 1979. I assure you we will all be driving in zero point energy devices within the next few years. There is a collective consciousness-raising thats in the air. Cant you feel it? If we can believe? We can achieve! Believe It! It will happen. I profess by 2010 you will see car’s driving around with these devices, and your home being powered by them. It will happen!
The Shock
Oct 20th, 2008 at 12:12 am
The problem with our thinking is we keep repeating the same thing over and over. Every day we discover that what we think we knew was wrong. Change is difficult for the human physic. Look how Tesla was ridiculed for his theory on gravitational waves. Much of what we know is OLD! If we are to believe that we are alone in the cosmos them we are very self centered in think that the creator would ONLY allow on planet to be populated! If however, we think outside of the “box” we quickly realize that we know VERY little about science. Therefore, as Einstein said “if we knew what we where doing we would not call it research.”
Too many times people try to debunk stuff without understanding that it maybe possible.
If we believe that others have been visiting this Earth, then there are civilizations much MORE advanced that ours with systems so advanced it would make our “heads spin”.
I say keep an open mind. Question constructively everything. Don’t just assume that something is wrong because some says it is. Tesla’s professor said that the polyphase electric motor was not possible, so Tesla built and powered industry with it. The question to ask is where are the great thinks and inventors of our time. This country is great because we are FREE thinking people but that’s maybe about to change if the socialist take power! Ask yourself what did the Incas/Mayan know that we did not? (Do some research. The ring is the thing.)Magnets are still a mystery to us.
beentheredonethat
Oct 31st, 2008 at 5:12 am
Is it possible to compress the magnetic force like how a jet engine does? By rings of arrays going from the outside in, that way you can use both sides of the magnets. The array configuration would need a mess with but Im sure as sure it would work. I know I can compress the above 5 discs into one disc with a bit of clever coupling but the drive off a magnetic jet engine would give more magnetic thrust to the axis. Is the power of attraction greater than the power of repel equal in a magnet? I think that the repel of a magnet towards another magnet would deteriate quicker than if they were attracting each other over the same time span…… Im not sure though…. I havent got the lifespan to measure it lol
Nov 3rd, 2008 at 7:58 pm
Why is there no news on up coming technologies? Is there a suppression during a time of need, this makes no sense for our future is at risk!!! There are free energy technologies and Permanent magnetic motors, if each house had a permanent magnetic motor to power the home and we drove electric cars. There would be hell of allot less greenhouse gases being emitted.
If you can understand this next bit then welldone if you cant then think harder!
DRAW this, 5 evenly spread lines coming out from a center point each tipped with south poled magnets then have 4 evenly spread SHAPELY curved double poled magnets(north-south) on the outer. Using the right streched,half diamond cured inwards shape outer double poled magnets and materials this pattern in general could be redefined to make MANY different types of magnetic motors.Can you think of your own? i have dozens in my head its so easy!THIS SIMPLE PATTERN WILL REWRITE THE LAWS OF PHYSICS!
Using the right combination of old and new technology with enough static energy to overcome part of the laws of diminishing returns THIS WILL power something usable, such as a house and much more
just something i come up with years ago.
C.S.I.R.O. Australia has one that can produce 3 500rpm, is there no investagation into this if there is then were is it?
Does anyone out there know any thing about this besides a select few. Josh M of Western Australia,Mandurah
Nov 21st, 2008 at 3:35 am
I think your all smoking crack. clearly the magnet motor and other “free energy” devices work and have worked for at least a hundred years but they will not succeed anytime soon becuase imagine if everyone in cars, car repair, and iol all lost their jobs? there would be a huge economic crisis and the world would fall apart. Think about that.
Nov 22nd, 2008 at 4:57 pm
Be careful about who you talk about research with! i think i have discovered free energy using disks u need 2 disks on top of each other spinning different directions. using magnetic force.
Nov 22nd, 2008 at 10:37 pm
Hi Jimmy,
please share your discovery with us…
Dec 15th, 2008 at 5:01 am
i’m selling a free energy device but i will over charge you for s&h
lol
Dec 19th, 2008 at 11:40 pm
I’ll be sell you the energy I make from mine. Patenting and licensing is a waste of time. The technology works. I don’t need anyone to tell me since I’ve replicated and built one. My point for posting is that I see nay sayers all the time. The more the better. That’s less competition.
Dec 26th, 2008 at 10:19 pm
Schematics of magnetic motors, aether, and just about anything else free energy can be found for free at:
Enjoy and download at will. Everything is free.
Dec 30th, 2008 at 9:09 pm
a motor that runs on only magnets,… is a clear violation of the laws of conservation of energy, and unfortunately makes this a complete impossible task.
Jan 7th, 2009 at 1:51 am
I can only tell you that my Tri-Metatron Magnetic Motor will indeed produce 46.56KW using only magnets..No Fuel needed and no electrical pulse needed.
If you are interested in investing in this machine please feel free to e-mail me at thefuturenow4u@yahoo.com
Jeremiah
Jan 8th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
It blows my mind to read how so-called educated claim that a magnet generator/motor/free energy device or conditions are not possible as they would violate the so-called Laws of thermodynamics or the conservation of energy or another model of a formed law of mans perception – what a misinformed statement to make … the magnet is full of energy – all matter is – like atoms !!! – the purpose would be to utilize/obtain/manipulate this energy if at all possible – you need to manifest/transfer/translate energy from one state or condition to a desirable one to obtain the desired purpose.
Please be practical and knowledgable before commenting with misinformed dogma and bias – it robs people of learning true and honest perceptions.
“Energy in a system may take on various forms (e.g. kinetic, potential, heat, light). The law of conservation of energy states that energy may neither be created nor destroyed. Therefore the sum of all the energies in the system is a constant.”
But what if you stop and realize the first sentence … FORMS of ENERGY (do we know all forms of energy? Of Course Not)
The last sentence says it all – but with a my own twist .. The sum of all the Forms of Energy in any given condition (a circuit, pipeline, etc) can be considered a constant for basic calculation purposed, but may be a sub-condition of a greater condition in which the energy in the first system may not be considered the sum or a constant.
What exactly is the sum of the systems energy a constant of or for?
only the value of an entire specified system – (in truth, you cannot deduce this in any system as there are forces at play that provide this illusion as a law which only defines a sub system of a greater system at work)- we deduce according to our subsystem results and observations of our own perception of what we percieve.
A transformer has 2 coils – primary and secondary
the primary carries the constant energy and the secondary absorbs it when it discharges from the primary (energy from one form to another)
Dont believe me – induction –
A charged coil (Primary), wire etc is electricity/tension (compressing Electric Motive Force) which when the tension (charge/electricity/battery) is removed or turned off the primary system, the total sum of that energy is discharged (expanding Electric Motive Force or Disipitating Magnetic Field) from the primary system outward, which is then obstructed thus absorbed by the secondary system of NO ENERGY yet, for that moment in time it is bombarded by charging comressing motive force – throw a buck of water at a barbwire fense really hard and fast does the water go through it and the fence remain dry – of course not – the wire is in the way so the force must travel around it and in some cases even through it (thus inertia)
Telsa stated – the cosmos is a sea of energy – transforming into many forms both unknown and known; they all exchange.
a magnet motor has field that is in constant rotation – dont believe me?
find out for your self – lets say you have 2 systems with equal energy inside – lets say 1 bar magnet is one system (45 strength) and another system is a ring magnet but 4 individual pieces fit perfectly – both systems weigh the same and have the same strength – touch any magnetizable material to each – what happens?
System 1 attracts from considerable distances, as the magnetic field is expanded considerably from the magnet, whereas system 2 has lost its attraction and magnetic field almost completely (about 99%) – touch the material to the magnet and you will find this to be true; it barely, if at all, attracts.
In system 1 the poles are an open circuit – one pole pushing out and the other is pulling in – but each end is 180 degrees apart
in system 2 the poles are attracted to each other and the Flux, is displaced to flow within the ring as the poles are displaced into each other and within the core and continuously circling (rotating) in the ring where as the poles are unified –
Now what about the equator of a bar magnet – between the north and south poles () – look for them in both systems – you will find them in both – each pole is attracting (1 pole positively dominent and the other negatively dominant) but the equators always repel either pole
Therefore – the poles are attraction/compressing (pending their dominant force) and the equators are discharging/repelling both.
Why is that?
Oscillation should be noted in all forms of energy, and their high tension or frequency to work with – read some esoteric science books – they have alot of tangable and edified experiments – Edward Leedskalnin (magnet Current), Viktor Schauberger (living energies), Walter Russell (the universal one, genero-radiative concept, the secret of light), Karl Schappeller (The Physics of the Primary State of Matter), Tesla … dont believe me … check this out …
MIT Physics Course Professor excited as Science doesnt understand why it works but it does – demonstrating Kelvins Water Dropper – towards the end of the video –
Theres some food for thought – read the so-called esoteric minds literature; they had alot to offer – after all it was the esoteric society of scientists and inventors that founded and paved the road for what we have today – literally
Have fun with it
PS
Does this work – it looks and sounds easy to build???
A little home lab to perform:
What happens if you wrap wire around a magnet (Primary System)
and then have a actual spinning generator (Second System) simply consisting of a coil and magnet spinning inside it with as little to none friction as possible …
and connect the 2 systems so that the Primary and Secondary systems oscillate between the 2 or better yet, have the output turn the generator? (of course you will require some simple enginuity, modifications and common sense to spin the shaft of coil or magnet with your output – to simple … try it and find out)
Jan 11th, 2009 at 2:17 am
Hey I am doing a science fair project for my school and i would like to do a magnetic motor and i have to have it done monday 12. So i was wondeing if you could help me out if you can that would be cool.Bob
Jan 15th, 2009 at 4:16 am
I’ve thought a lot about magnetic motors but i’ve been wondering if a gravitational motor could work. I realize the gravitational constant is small so i’m not sure it’s plausible but maybe a combined gravitational/magnetic motor? and i do realize this couldn’t be accomplished within the atmosphere but maybe on a satellite…? in orbit…? what do you think?
lilskl@yahoo.com
Jan 15th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
As a Master of Electronic Engineering I know that static permanent magnets hold a lot of energy. I remember the calculatons of equivalent current of the permanent magnet (the current one would need to archieve the magnetic force in the electromagnet device) since my first “Fundametals of Electrotechincs” clases. We are talking about HUGE currents … “the problem is how to use them!” said my teaching assistant.
So is there anybody here who can explain me, what is happening with the magnet? If the magnetic motor is giving output energy, some energy must be TAKEN OUT from the system. What kind of energy is “lost” i.e. converted to mechanical? Are the magnets wearing out i.e. loosing their magnetism? Are they simply cooling down?
This is a very simple question, and I am a little bit sceptic about this “free energy”, before having some answers.
Thank you!
Jan 15th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
Hi Max,
Yes, apparently magnets lose their power over time, but we’re talking about hundreds of years.
Ovi.
Jan 22nd, 2009 at 2:10 am
(ATTN Max)
The link above should allow you all access to download the suggested reading material – read this for Magnet motivation especially walter, viktor, and karls works – do eds book labs – awsome stuff
Please note im just a guy who enjoys tinkering and does what he wants to do .. and always willing to discuss and ponder and experiment no matter the probability – because its fun!
I learn more from mistakes and failures than i do regurgitated concepts.
Perspective is everything when it comes to understanding or expanding on the known and unknown forces (at least thats my opinion) –
Consider a bar magnet as an open circuit
Consider a segmented (4 pieces of a pie) connected into a magnet ring a closed circuit (is the flux or motive force oscillating?)
Compare this closed circuit ring magnet with an actual circuit and try to identify how you can simulate an electrical action with a magnetic one – metaphorise a closed electrical circuit with a closed magnetic circuit – expand from it. Make a mechanical representation of the principle behind it – its actually right in front of our noses – i would suggest iron as a filler to replicate the wire.
Electrical current is in a typical circuit, where as your magnetic circuit is full of electrcal flux – or is it the same ??? ;-D
Hello Bob,
I guess its a little late to respond – im always in my lab or out with my kids. If you still wanna do some projects i would be more than happy to do some with you.
Im currently in the process of purchasing the materials for Juans Magnet Mill – so simple it probably works
Heres the link (also check out the download site i posted above – i translated most of it already):
Hello Lemon
,
Check out the link above and and read genero-radiative concept
Have you herd of the Lifter projects?
Ed LeedSkalinin levitated granite (claimed he knew how the egyptians did it)
I will put on OtisTCarr – Teslas Protoge – Apparently, he was shut down by the US Government for publically trying to create a kind of LoveBoat – but it was a UFO – after the governement shut the plant down a few weeks before the big day of unveiling, Otis died of illness a few months later – im telling you … he makes sense and left a treasure map to it in the form of a poetic riddel – some minds are always at play … i have not solved it nor do i plan to make much effort to … at this time … LOL
Anyway gotta go … have a great week everyone!
Jan 22nd, 2009 at 2:13 am
oops the linking didnt go so well did it … :-S
Download site:
passwrd: forgottengenius
Bob,
Here is Juans Site:
Jan 29th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
I am looking for detailed instructions on how I can build a magnet motor from home. My thought is to use it for powering a regular gas powered electric generator. Any suggestions? Is this possible?
Jan 30th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
dear DIVO,
I’m sorry to tell you that your plan is not possible at all. The reason is simple: Imagine trying to put the north-ends of two permanent magnets together. They repel.
Both magnets offer the same force to each other(not depending on their magnetic status)(a law of physics!(you pull earth, earth pulls you – with the exact same amount of force)).
This means you cannot guide one magnet with another one. That is, they both move the same, or they do not move at all. Consider a skateboarder pulling another one to himself. They both move the same. You can try this one.
For this particular idea of a magnetic motor, I find that a viable explanation for the incorrectness. It is by no means scientific, but gives a picture. Other magnetic motor ideas fall for different explanations, but a basic thumb rule is that if nothing is consumed, nothing is created! (a magnetic force field cannot be consumed, because it is not substance nor is it energy: it is a formation of the atoms in the magnet.)
hihii
Feb 1st, 2009 at 7:28 am
Dear hihii
You are wrong, since a permanent magnet will ewar out it is energy, you can magnetize a screwdriver by hammering on it oriented north/south, after a few days it will loose the magnetism, so there is a form of energy there, this does not mean that a magnetic motor can or won´t work, it just means that you are wrong.
Even if atoms align to produce a magnetic field, the coil and electricity you used to align them ( or the hammering) is enegy added) and then lost or worn down when atoms return to their previous state.
sorry
Ivo
Feb 4th, 2009 at 2:58 am
If anyone in this forum has a working magnet motor that can supply at least 12kw of power, please email me at cantuhomarito@yahoo.com. I can and will get your product into mass production quickly. NDA’s are no problem and I am not looking for compensation, just the chance to help someone do whats right.
Feb 20th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
I just finished my samill unite, i make it with 96 permanent magnet, and plug my 3 kva dymo, i design it in my way, i read and see videos of other inventor, i am sure it could handle 15 kva dymo, as power too much, i set rpm, and getting results, 6 days ago countinuse its providing electricity to my home, i am working from last 1 year, bc low salary , so saving and spending on this project, and if i success to watch 30 days, then i need wait more 3 month to earn some money and save for get video cammera’s, and some test probs for more meaure, and will publish my running 3kva magnet motor
Imran Pakistan
Feb 22nd, 2009 at 8:27 am
Hey Everybody! I am also working on a magnetic motor. I have an eclectic design in mind and just got the parts yesterday. With any luck, I should have the design completed by the end of the week. That doesn’t mean it will work, but I am a true believer which means the only factor is time! If anyone would like to email me (fellow inventers, non-believers, investors, or the ever curious) here is my email: b_cphotography@yahoo.com
Mar 2nd, 2009 at 8:26 pm
hello to all….
i also believe in magnetic motors from cpming studies about the magnetic motors..
i would like to prefer Perendeve,s motor becoz it will work properly and seems that it will give a large amount of power also. though it have large power so it can be use in various powerful machines.
it also seems that its controlling is too easy and efficient..
my e-mail id-> coolsonug@gmail.com
Apr 2nd, 2009 at 7:13 am
This guy is full of it. Magnetic motors work. This guy is probably an agent for the establishment. The establishment doesn’t want you to know that you can live without their over-priced power now.
Anyone doubt me, go search for Troy Reed and his magnetic motor. It is real. This stuff exists and to say that free energy doesn’t exits is really ignorant. This guy is either in on the scam or a dumbass.
Apr 2nd, 2009 at 10:20 pm
I’ve been designing magnet motors on paper since 1994 and sharing my designs since 1997 to everybody under the sun;all I would get is sneers and jeers;thus I never took the time nor had the money to fulfill my dreams. I am so happy to see my exact designs being built and shown by many accross the globe. I guess all of those who belittled me and treated me with so much disrespect are now reevaluating their entire so called scholary education that claims they are knowledgable somebody’s. I fill that I have been vindicated by all of those who have built and succeeded in making the magnet motors work. Thank You for Your efforts,tenacity and hard work. Most Sincerly Michael Adam Curry 02 April 2009
Apr 9th, 2009 at 4:10 am
Total bollocks to all the morons who think you can get free energy out of a system with nothing but static magnets! You lot are idiots – go learn some basic physics. (Conservation of energy principle) If no energy is put into a system .. you don’t get any out either! You stupid f**ks!
Apr 11th, 2009 at 7:09 am
HI.
I been tinkering on a mechanical motor for 35 years, almost have it.
In my calculations if I do get it running I think it will disinegrate unless I give it a load. I think it would be like steam the moor fire the moor steam endless.
Also wondering if repelling magnets create radiation?
Another Question, can ozone be compressed to a liquid?
If aanyone can help out let me know
Thanks
Apr 18th, 2009 at 4:56 am
i’m true a beliver to i fink about it day in day out if you think how a normal motor works magnet on the out side and the rotery part is is an eletromagnet which is force so why carn’t that be replaced with a normal magnets and spone with your hand to start it what do you recon it try and error f**k al these not belivers i’m a true beliver i recon it does work .and why it not been produced by now is because there be too much money lost in there enery compernies any 1 get any ideas email me at james.birkin1@googlemail.com as again i fink it possible good look to every 1 respest
Apr 20th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Dear Daryel:
Here is your answer:
A. C. Jenkins and F. S. DiPaolo
Linde Air Products Company, A Division of Union Carbide and Carbon Corporation, Tonawanda, New York
The melting point of pure liquid ozone has been determined by two methods and found to be —192.5±0.4°C. The surface tension of pure ozone at —182.7°C is 38.1±0.2 dynes/cm. Densities of pure liquid ozone are as follows: 1.5727±0.0004 g/cm3 at —182.9°C, 1.5839±0.0011 g/cm3 at —185.6°C, and 1.6130±0.0004 at —195.6°C, the last value being for the super-cooled liquid. The viscosity of pure liquid ozone is 1.56±0.2 centipoises at —183.0°C and 4.14±0.5 centipoises for the supercooled liquid at —195.6°C.Densities of several liquid ozone-oxygen mixtures have been measured. These measurements show that densities of liquid mixtures can be calculated accurately from densities of pure oxygen and ozone by the relation 1/d = x1/d1+x2/d2, where d is the density of the mixture, d1 and d2 are the densities, and x1 and x2 the weight fractions of pure oxygen and pure ozone, respectively, at the given temperature.Viscosities of ozone oxygen mixtures have been measured at —183.0°C and can be reproduced with an average deviation of 5% by the relation log10=x1 log101+x2 log102, where represents the viscosity of the mixture, 1 the viscosity of liquid oxygen, 2 the viscosity of liquid ozone, and x1 and x2 are the mole fractions of oxygen and ozone, respectively, all at the same temperature.
Here ya go !!
Apr 26th, 2009 at 9:00 am
Members
I just starting in this magenet motor and I interest to prove them in my country – indonesia.
Many citizen in here till now have not electric in them homw/village therefore if this magnet motor can works for home electric small to medium KVA then it will solved the problem.
I hope you can send me drawing, picture, video, information location to buy it etc by email to energindonesia@gmail.com
Kind regards
Jul 24th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
first question comes to mind; all the horror stories told by the free energy people, about big corp./government suppression, if true, why is all this so called info allowed on the net? if A computer illiterate guy like me can find it so easy, surly the dudes with the black “heliocopters” and dark shades know about it and would put a stop to it,huh?
Jul 24th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
First of all, thanks for the comment. Secondly… well, it’s not quite like that. You can’t fight something that thousands of people around the world experiment and struggle to build without attracting attention towards yourself and making them sound right. That’s why they don’t put a stop to some of this info, because the internet is public, and once published, an article can flow freely along the network…
Jul 24th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
your answer is quite acceptable, now answer me this. hypotheticaly , in your opinion, what would happen if one of these successful inventors were to draw up legible and detailed description of the device and flood the net with it? I under stand there wanting to make some money off the thing, but it seems to me it wold do a lot to break the stranglehold that Big Brother has on the world economy. I know its a dumb question, but asking dumb questions is what creative people do.
Jul 24th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
If someone found the magic “potion” and released it on the net publicly, something like an advertisement campaign would happen around him/her. Then, interested groups, with lots of money and “good will” would be interested in the invention. Of course, a few amateurs and diy-ers would build the invented thing, but they wouldn’t be many. After that, the interested companies would slowly capture the invention, pass it as their own, silence it and say it was never viable or was too expensive, or they would “study”, buy it and release the invention at a proper time, or never. Such was the case with the batteries from EV1, the electric car from GM. They had the performance, they had the weight and everything, but the patent was bought by oil companies, who bought a large share of GM. And that’s it. The invention was never put into action…
Jul 24th, 2009 at 11:36 pm
what is the EV1 battery and where can I find out more about it?
Are you convinced that this magnetic motor really works? if so how do you explain it\’s source of energy? are today\’s physicists, for the most part hoodwinked? I grew up in a religious cult and can see how a large group of people can be conditioned to think a certain way, but there is always a certain number who don\’t buy it, where are they in the world of physics? (I guess that after spending all the time and money to get there education they want to keep there job so they keep there mouth shut.) my worst enemy has always been my own ignorance.
Jul 26th, 2009 at 7:02 am
http://www.greenoptimistic.com/2009/01/15/ev1-electric-vehicle-oil-companies/
Jul 30th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
Ok. I would just like to say, I previously thought I was a genious for thinking of the 30 degree magnet and gear idea. But, I tried it and it does not work. One realization that I came to is that the opposing force or build up must always come first and it will always be equal to the discharge force. The reason engines and windmills work is because of additional outside forces acted on the internal system. But rest assured, I will keep on trying to invent something.
Aug 1st, 2009 at 3:21 pm
I am FAR from any kind of expert and I was thinking about how this is consider perpetual motion. It wouldn’t be. You would use the magnet’s energy and eventully the magnet would wear out when its fuel is exhausted. Magnets that are supposed to last 200 years might only last 10 years or even 10 months under these conditions but I don’t see where it is perpetual motion. The earth is a giant magnetic generator that will eventually wear out. That doesn’t count friction and wear on the generator that will need to be maintained. I don’t see how it won’t work. A fixed magnet will push against the same pole on a magnet mounted on a moveable surface and move it away. That could be used to transfer magnetic energy into mechanical energy and mechanical energy into electrical. I don’t see how that is against any physical laws. Can someone set me straight?
Aug 20th, 2009 at 4:24 am
Talk, Talk, Talk, Talk, Talk. Nothing but talk. In 1978 I designed my first magnet drive motor. This is very old stuff. Don’t just waiste your time yacking, go and just make one. BUT MAKE IT BIG ENOUGH TO BE OF SOME USE. Good luck and goodbye.
Aug 29th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
My attempt to build a Perendev has resulted in a wooden apparatus that exhibits cogging. It seems the flux field imprisons whatever magnetic material and attachments so that small, focused parts do not have the expected result. A pervasive field tends to put everything into a \"cogged\" or static position.
Now, I can turn the stator magnets to create strong positive and negative points.
Is possible that the simple demonstration using only four magnets has maximized the benefit of using magnets without creating a murky, pervasive, and controlling field. The magnetic energy can then be directed to achieve expected results.
-C
Sep 8th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Hello ! I\’m from Brazil and in here is very difficult to find some informations about this machine. I try to do something with neodimio parts from old HD and find the same problem that you, Charles. I think that the secret are in the initial point, a fine position that starts the engine, because the magnetic parts must be adjust by your power (the magnetic field).
God bless us…
Oct 6th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
I’ve for years have been looking into this magnetic propulsion and have decided to just hunker down and start experimenting. I don’t care what the skeptics, pesimists or the cynics say. Maybe I’m wrong, but I would think that there would have to be a pull as well as a push to create a strong enough rotation with minimal drag or resistance. Once that’s achieved it’s then time to turn to the magnetic to mechanical to electrical energy. God gave us all the tools we just have to put 2 and 2 together.
Oct 12th, 2009 at 10:49 am
I built my own Magnetic Generator that I am currently using to provide enough power for all my kitchen appliances using the plans at:
Nov 14th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
Don’t know what all you guys are upset about. We haven’t paid an electric bill for over a year due to a Magniworks motor / generator setup in my garage. Simple physics, works great. What stinks is my 401K.
Dec 11th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
Hello
I’m from morocco. and I’m also intresting with the idea of free energy by magnet motor. I’ve tested a lot of possibilities but the result was negative. If someone have an idea and want to test it, I can do it my mail is elasri3@hotmail.com. The day when I success in any attemption I will inform you but now all prototypes doesn’t work. I’ll thanks all working in this direction although it’s against the principles of physics théory.
Dec 12th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
dear divo i have this theroy that if you take two wheels one able to fit with in the other and postion the perment magnets all around the outside of the iner wheel and all around the iner side of the outer wheel that u can use the repultion force of the magnets to spin the iner wheel outer wheel is stationary mabe this can help u
Dec 23rd, 2009 at 1:58 am
magnetic repulsion motors are no longer a theory. they are a fact. anyone can build one. if somebody wants you to invest in their idea dont do it. if you our able to build one you should share your idea openely.greed is the reason this technology has been suppressed this long. i will be uploading my build on instructables.com within the next few weeks.
Dec 23rd, 2009 at 10:10 am
We are almost there. E=m+{a}c2 That simple equation adds the weak force asymmetry value to g’s single inertial frame measurement of the force of gravity as well as electromagnetism for measurements made in the strong force. This measurement applies outside of the weak force. Only within the weak force does E equal mc2 as a whole mass unit of measurement. You cannot add mass to the weak force. The weak force asymmetry is only observed from within the strong force and represents space/time added due to observing a speed of light clock (the weak force’s mass in oscillation) running fast when measured by the speed of light.
To keep it simple, it takes time to transfer energy/time into the strong force, and time is represented by a volume of space. Gravity does not bend time: the points in time are set and adding the space of mass within two points causes space to bend just as an archer’s bow bends to a straight string holding it between two points. The weak force contains mass and the strong force contains mass energy. There is no mass in the strong force. They are two separate inertial frames of reference and separating them answers most questions in physics and adding the asymmetry value shows this.
Therefore it should be noted that if E=m+{a}c2, then Newton’s law is corrected by F=m+{a}a, and Ohm’s law by V=I+{a}/R. All three equations are the same when converted into spacetime measurement where weak pressure, wp=force, energy or voltage, Space=Mass, and Time=resistance, c2 because mass=drag. wp=S+{a}/T. Just as gravity bends space EM stretch’s it. Gravity’s influence on space is great, and EM’s is almost unnoticeable.
So where did the mass come from in the beginning? The answer is found in the question as it was not moving. It takes time to move mass, and mass moved because it has gravity. It created a clock’s metronome: Life’s heart, the weak force.
John^^
Dec 23rd, 2009 at 9:52 pm
You are making too much of this.
I built it using wood, without the shielding. It doesn’t work.
Shielding is necessary to create (in effect,) single pole magnets, attenuating the wrap-around flux effect that engulfs everything establishing a static state.
With ample shielding the intended effect of rotor-stator repulsion (as demonstrated by Wang Shum Ho,) is dominant.
Ideal shielding is not possible. I looked into permalloy finding it desirable but very expensive. An experiment with steel tubing clearly reveals the effect of attenuation. I will try again, possibly routering a channel in the wheel for iron powder or pellets in a resin.
Also, using composite bearings on a vertical axis (like Wang Shum Ho,) is desirable. Just a turn by hand starts his motor though the chair-magnetic liquid is patented and not necessary.
-C
Jan 12th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
Technically, according to the “Law of Conservation.” Permanent magnets cannot provide energy in an of themselves. If I attached a circuit with a Neomidium magnet as the power source nothing would happen.
However, due to the attractive and repulsive force of magnetic flux lines. Magnets can be aranged in a way to create Mechanical energy. This requires intense work and lots of patients to line up the flux lines in a way where it causes it to move without interuption.
It is possible, you will probably see a lot of failures, but if you stay with it you will be rewarded.
I am also interested in constructing my own magnetic motor. Probably something like the Perendev Motor. If you have any ideas email me: steve.files02@gmail.com
Feb 3rd, 2010 at 1:53 pm
I have read all the post of this page…my conclusions….i want to believe in a magnetic power generator…but there is no practical do-it-yourself guide anywhere (links above will not work or not give understadable info on how to build it)…so, my recomendation…forget about it and move on…and dont fall into scams like Mangniworks or Magnet4all…im not an oil/gov agent, but seems magnetic generator only exist in youtube videos….those who have the plans..u r welcome to prove me wrong….
Feb 23rd, 2010 at 5:23 pm
Hi,
Amazing amount of info here but i, like many others still do not understand the concept of creating free energy using magnets.
This is not to say i do not believe because i do, what annoys me the most is the amount of dis-information that is put onto the web to try to nulify the human race moving forward TOGETHER!!! a concept deeply frowned upon by people of greed and power. the internet is the start of the downfall of so called Gov/est and all there secrets to stop us progressing as a human race, the monetry system of the world, the institutions that make up the world all help to keep the human race fragmeted and not working as one to make a better world for all.
Did you know that china has over 30,000 agents everyday scouring the internet to stop certain infomation being made accessible to their own people in there country.
Why? Control.
The internet can not be controlled though it can only be made difficult to know what is real,what is not. Truth from hearsay but slowly people are beginning to realise that often when an idea as big as Magnetic motors, Free energy or even energy sources which last a whole lot longer than current tech… thats the tech that makes the world go round via our current way of life dictated by the monetery system that we live by,are and will be possible.It is the beginning of the end for so called disinformation tactics.
Why are UFO’s still only now really coming into mass consciousness? because more and more infomation is becoming availible on the net. Anyone who still believe’s we are alone or more outrageously the most advanced lifeforms in our galaxy never mind the universe need to open their eyes. Mainstream media is totally coruppt and nobody should take any of it seriously.
The net is a steamtrain of truth constantly trying to be slowed down by dis-information.
Sadly, i dont think we are in any kind of stable existance as a human race to comprehend what possible consequences free energy or even just an energy source that completely annialates what we have right now will do to us as a human race.
It certainly could contribute to the human race’s downfall, but maybe thats what is needed to break free from this real life matrix we live in.
Either way i believe change is needed and fast or we may just end up like the rest of the great civilizations that have walked our planet previous to us.
I hope magnetic motor become a reality so that all the world can benefit and break free from our chains of control where the rich grow richer and the rest of us……….
Thx, Unknown.
Feb 24th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
I have designed and built, that’s right, built 6 different “free energy” technology generators. All completely different technologies. Not only can it be done, I have done it. I will not say what they are or answer any questions about them whatsoever. I wish to protect my intellectual property completely, and am in the patent process for 12 different models/applications.
Alternative technology IS being done all over the world, on grand scales. The electric car has long since been running and 100% proven globally. GM killed the program, but now it is up and running again and you can buy them from 6 different manufacturers in the states.
Tesla motors in california has made the #1 performing sports car in the world, and yes, its electric. They have more models coming out now, and have been featured in nearly every prominent business magazine in the USA.
France has the Air car, long since in production.
Brazil runs over 85% of its cars on Ethanol made from Sugar Beets. NOT corn, NOT sugar cane, Sugar BEETS, banned in the Usa for production, as the high fructose corn syrup industry has control and a monopoly and will not allow competition from incredibly cheap sugar beet crops. Ethanol from sugar beets is 6 times more efficient than ethanol from corn and thus, ethanol from corn should NEVER be used (unless scientifically impossible to grow or buy sugar beet ethanol for less…..as if) The price at the pump? $1 a gallon Brazilian, or $.25 cents a Liter. Dont believe me? Look it up it will take you not even 5 minutes.
The combustion engine was designed by Diesel. Its not just the kind of Fuel you guys, DIESEL was the name of the guy who invented the combustion engine. The fuel is named after him, and the engine as well
in case you didn’t just figure that out. The combustion engine was NOT designed to run on petrol/gasoline. It was designed to run on…get this… BIO-DIESEL. That’s right. Don’t believe me? Just look it up its encyclopedic fact.
The reason GM killed the electric car was because it has not even 1/6th the annual revenues from all sources of income including petrol use and income losses there, and the income from repair and maintenance of most of the oil based parts that are in the car that electrics simply dont have. Watch “who killed the electric car” or any of the other dozens of doccos about the electric car, look up pros and cons of it, maintenance comparisons and more. GM stood to lose billions a year in maintenance and parts revenues if the electric got in. GM was just defunct so they must change now, back comes the electric.
Hydrogen cars are HERE. Honda has been making them for the last couple years AND SELLING THEM. Jamie-Lee curtis bought one for $102,000 a Hydrogen fuel celled run Hybrid Civic Sedan. FACT. LOOK IT UP.
FACT. Ballard co. Of Vancouver BC, Canada who created the Ballard Fuel cell (Hydrogen fuel cell) Has been selling and running hydrogen fuel cell powered ZERO emmission vehicles in Vancouver for nearly two WHOLE decades. A HUGE segment of the public transport busses in Vancouver have been run on Ballard Hydrogen fuel cells for the last 15+ years. Look them up on the web, they arent hard to find. This IS THE GOVERNMENT, buying and running this technology.
FACT. We have wind turbines all over the world now and they are one of the fastest growing segments of the energy market. Every government nearly globally has INVESTED in this technology, many municipal ones have, many corporations, many individuals as well.
FACT. We also have solar everywhere, with again every global government investing heavily in this and many corporations and individuals in every nation doing the same. Isreal nearly doesn’t have a single home without a solar panel and solar hot water heater anymore.
FACT. ALL Governments are completely open to investing in research, technology, and more environmentally friendly ways of generating power, and they have ALL been doing so. There has NOT been one single government who has not done so or has opposed any form of alt energy. IN FACT, governments and nations have MORE HEAVILY OPPOSED more oil drilling, any offshore exploration or drillings, any new nuclear plants, and now through the global warming fraud scare mongering, they are heavily opposing carbon producing coal fired plants as much as they can.
The problem is though, ALLLLLL of these more environmentally friendly methods DO NOT produce ANYWHERE near the same level of power as base-load-power coal for the money, nor nuclear, nor even fossil fuel burning generators. All of these Alt fuel techs DO NOT AND CAN NOT run 24 hours a day, like coal, nuke, and oil, and you NEED AND MUST HAVE constant power supply 24 hours a day to power fridges, coolers, manufacturing, offices, governments, and more. It is NOT POSSIBLE to only run on solar, wind, etc.
Global power demand is SKYROCKETING due to the development of China, India, Africa, and the immigration booms of all western nations. We are DESPERATE for ALLLL sources of power to increase more rapidly than any of us can imagine, just to keep up. Switching is IMPOSSIBLE. We could add billions of new solar panels (if we could afford them) and STILL we would need more coal plants and nuke plants and more oil plants.
Alternatives are HERE, GROWING, and WELCOMED, in fact the government is begging for it.
Magnetic technology has been worked on by governments ALL OVER the world COLLECTIVELY together in joint projects for over 60 years. It is easy to find THEIR schematics they have spent BILLIONS on trying to get working for ALL these models and more, all over the web. It only took me a few short hours to find them the first time I discovered how to make a magnetic generator work and I reasonably thought, “no way, little old me couldnt have figured it out, certainly someone must have before me!, I better look online” Sure enough, BILLIONS has been spent, thousands of methods tried. About 8 governments in the G-20 collectively went in on a massive wheel project with hundreds of physics, math, and engineering experts and PHDs in South America to try and make this work, for DECADES. Nothing. They didn’t get it to go.
There are some facts in life you conspiracy theorists and immature kids need to accept, like these I have just posted.
Start actually READING instead of Dreaming. Read magazines like “The inventor” “The New Scientist” and any other invention magazines, physics magazines, science magazines, and go to a university at least once in your lives, They do allow people to just check them out you know…they even have tours, short classes you can get into, and MOST technological institutes or schools have HUGE departments DEDICATED to these kinds of projects.
FACT. JAPAN has invested over 20 BILLION in a new plasma reactor that basically harnesses Nuclear fusion on a small level. They have not yet gotten it to work but are VERY close.
There is NO conspiracy theory. NO black helicoptors. IN FACT, if Obama, Bush, Clinton, Reagan, ANYONE knew or had access to a very cheap energy abundant source (no such thing as free as I will explain soon why) They would want to CLAIM it and make it their baby to WIN VOTES, go down in history as the savior of earth. Just look at that loser Al Gore the Fraud who chooses to lie outright and dodge from the real causes just to make money for himself, which he has basically admitted to doing. Obama is DESPERATE for more energy. Since his fool party partners have banned any oil based useage, and since wind farms and solar cant come on line for decades because the USA energy grid can not support it where it is viable, he has NO CHOICE but to go Nuclear, and push Electrics as well. Bush sold out to the hydrogen car, helping to kill electrics, one of the things I disagreed with him on, although he was fantastic for the economy after 911 and until Greenspan/Lehman/Goldman Sachs/destroyed it.
Now, about the LIE of Free energy. NOTHING IS FREE. I have to contain my fury when speaking about this and try to be diplomatic. Even if you make Nuclear Fusion and have massive power for cheap….you STILL HAVE MASSIVE COSTS. Maintaining the power grid, keeping it safe from terrorists, accounting, storm and power outage services, expanding the grid when new homes are built or buildings, and upgrading old lines, the hundreds of thousands of workers salaries it takes to do all this, and on and on and on. The expenses WILL NOT STOP. Energy might get cheaper…that is AFTER the new plants are built and the mega billions spent and decades to build them even to bring on a blip of replacement power needed and by then we will need twice as much as we do now.
The fact is you guys, its time to grow up your minds a little. This is a HUGE problem that can not be tackled in even 20 years even IF we have nuclear fusion TODAY figured out. Energy is such a huge problem and the conservative value of power cost to the end user in just the USA, Canada, and Australia is over 466 Billion dollars per year. Add europe and its 1 TRILLION dollars per year. This DOES NOT include ONE SINGLE CAR, this is ONLY electricity in households/businesses on a conservative estimate for business use. In ten years its Ten Trillion dollars.
You guys think world anarchy will happen in a week if someone posts online one of the many already proven technologies long since used, or it will be snuffed out by power makers. In fact the opposite will happen. Everyone is far too busy to do anything about it, we are all scrambling to get MORE power as fast as we can ANY way we can, and appease the environmentalists along the way, or do it as green as we can (my preference) The most likely result is a power company would buy you out so THEY can make CHEAPER power for themselves, and sell it to the consumer, thus increasing their profits. They wont shelf a tech when they will profit directly. You have it all backwards. You don’t understand capitalism at all. Who the hell would shelf something they can buy and make Billions off of? GM MADE the electric car, and shelved it cause it would have cost them billions, yes, but that is cars, NOT power generation.
Now, on to the ’so called’ greed factor.
I will not comment any more on any technologies I have made/produced/proven as I don’t want to give mine away and plan commercial pursuits with them. The main pressure is not a technology being shelved by a big corp., it is someone stealing your idea/concept/product. There is nothing wrong with taking a great idea and going commercial with it instead of giving it away for free. It is not such a huge bite out of consumers financial picture either to spend an average of only $2,000 a year on power/heat/air-cond. People blow $2,000 a year on ALL OF THESE nearly every year too, coffee, big screens, flashy clothes and mobile phones, purses and shoes, pizza, fast food, pay per view, movies, driving gas guzzlers, gambling, your credit card debt for all your partying and irresponsible living, drinking, drugs, pornography, and all kinds of other useless wasteful crap. You don’t moan about those things do you? Nope, not one word. If you cut back on crap, you wouldn’t even notice your power bill anyway.
The word needs to go to Air Cars, and Sugar beet-Ethanol. it SHOULD NOT go to electric. WE DONT HAVE ENOUGH electricity. Another reason why Bush went with hydrogen instead. The innovation needs to be applauded, but to go to electric is no less a disaster than oil for cars. We need cars running on a tech WE DONT USE, or is abundant. If we run electric cars, we need more coal fired plants = MASSIVE Co2, even more than cars make = possibly totally USELESS in net result!. Now there is a question for you. Unfortunate isn’t it?
We need SUGAR beet ethanol for cars, and Natural Gas. Both very clean, abundant, and cheap, and take you off foreign oil, and doesnt cause more Co2 by coal fired.
We also need even MORE investment, which were getting, but we need even MORE into NEW alt techs.
BUT even if we made millions of magno generators, this IS NOT free power, its just cheaper power only. Power companies will make more profit, and maybe keep prices steadier, but their COSTS will rise every year due to inflation, and it will not drop much due to this anyway. It will be cleaner for the planet, but not much cheaper, especially when they will spend massive cash building the new plants.
Think it through folks, visit a uni and ask some questions, read some science, physics and invention mags in the library or the grocery store or bookshops, and you will be awakened.
And yes, I have BUILT 6 working prototypes for “so called” free power generators, but there is nothing free about them. The materials weren’t free, getting the power to market sure as hell wont be free, legal fees, business licenses, patent apps, salesmen, accountants, and more sure as heck weren’t free. My time isn’t free either, you might think it is, but I don’t.
For all of what I am saying, wikipedia.com you will find it and more.
Wake up to the new world guys, its called THE REAL world. A world desperately short on energy, trying to do ANYTHING possible to get more any way possible, not quash it. A world where NOTHING is free, not even the fools dreams of free health care, free power, free water, or even freedom.
Who knows, Maybe one day soon you will be buying some of my power. Cheers to you all, save money, work hard, learn, grow, innovate, contribute, and give your all. Conspiracy theories only hold you back. Get into business, and build something.
Feb 27th, 2010 at 4:25 pm
Wow, I can’t believe all the dreamers here.
If you give me perfect magnets that never get weaker over time as they are used, then I could easily build a perpetual motion machine. Let me know when you create or find such magnets. All the magnets I know of eventually lose their magnetism. Even the earth will eventually lose it’s magnetic field. If we figured out a way to tap that field for energy then the earth would lose it’s magnetic field a little faster.
Feb 28th, 2010 at 2:56 pm
I can’t believe that people still seriously think that a “free energy” motor can be built. First we have followers of creationism calling themselves followers of intelligent design! Now we have people, who don’t understand why perpetual motion machines are impossible, now saying they want an over-unity machine or a free energy machine. What is wrong with our eduction system that allows such lunacy? Invest in them I say then ask yourself why nothing gets delivered and you don’t get your money back. Make a model one but don’t purchase plans (that is part of the scam too!). When will people learn that you NEVER get something for nothing in the world of energy. PATHETIC thinking folks.
Mar 1st, 2010 at 7:14 pm
“I can’t believe that people still seriously think that a “free energy” motor can be built. First we have followers of creationism calling themselves followers of intelligent design! Now we have people, who don’t understand why perpetual motion machines are impossible, now saying they want an over-unity machine or a free energy machine. What is wrong with our eduction system that allows such lunacy? Invest in them I say then ask yourself why nothing gets delivered and you don’t get your money back. Make a model one but don’t purchase plans (that is part of the scam too!). When will people learn that you NEVER get something for nothing in the world of energy. PATHETIC thinking folks.”
And I can’t believe why people think it’s so impossible. Zero point energy may be a wash, but magnetic motors are not fake and can be built.
Here’s the part where you say “Law of Conservation of Energy” and stick your head in the sand. Energy HAS been given. Millions of years ago when rocks in the Earth’s crust became magnetic. Energy was given then to make it magnetic, all we have to do is line them up and watch them spin.
Let me make it simple:
If you take two powerful magnets and place them 3 centimeters apart and let go of one. The one you let go of will move toward the one that is still stationary. That was kinetic ENERGY at work.
O-M-G, I must not be real because that violates the law of conservation of energy! Back, Demon!
…This is proof the magnets have some sort of energy stored in some form somewhere. And don’t tell me that isn’t true, because we have all played with magnets at least once in our life. You saw the movement then and would probably see it today, does that mean your fake?
Before you go flaming me consider this, we don’t know enough about magnetic fields and quantum physics to say that magnetic motor are 100% not possible.
Mar 2nd, 2010 at 8:25 pm
In response to the disclaimers:
There is no claim the single pole magnet assembly can be used to assert perpetual energy. With shielding, the wheel will turn, offering opportunity to exploit an interesting device. Working models will be worth money. One that turns a DC alternator can be used to charge batteries.
BTW: India is way out in front of the U.S. of A-holes with a fascinating development of humanity.
-Charles
Mar 10th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
The magnetic poles were formed during the formation of the planet, the result of the moons’ affect on the gravitational and magnetic distortiuon that forced the planet to become and remain round. That is why the poles are able to switch polarities from time to time. Places like ‘The Bermuda Triangle’ did once exist because they were remnants of the last shift. There is only one reason why Magnetic Motors are mostly rejected, they create a mostly unused and rejected form of energy called ‘Radiant.’ If you build such a device and actually get the circuitry correct, it will run from one battery while charging a second battery needed in which to dump this foreign energy. At the Hydro-electric Power Plants they just drive a ligthening rod into the ground and disapate it into the planet (Grounding!) If you connect something like a computer to the output using a voltage regulator to supply the correct voltage to the computer. The radiant energy will first destroy the computer, then melt the voltage regulator. Interesting benefit from Radiant energy! If you connect a old calcified 12 volt auto battery to the output. the radiant energy will crack through the calcification, restore and recharge the old battery thus reviving the old battery. The person who creates technology that operates on/with Radiant Energy will create a new world of power use!
Mar 12th, 2010 at 3:21 am
I heard a profound quote from a SF movie that I would like to share with you.
1500 years ago everyone just knew that the earth was the center of the universe.
500 years ago everyone just knew that the earth was flat.
Currently you just know that magnet motors goes against the laws of physics.
Just think about what you will know tommorrow!!!
The so called experts have been getting it wrong since the begginning of time.
Mar 12th, 2010 at 4:53 am
1500 years ago everyone just knew that the earth was the center of the universe because they didn’t have the knowledge to know otherwise.
500 years ago everyone just knew that the earth was flat – actually an urban myth as even the church of the time accepted the earth was round – but keep quoting it as it helps to make your argument.
Currently you just know that magnet motors goes against the laws of physics, and as the previous two analogies didn’t include the laws of physics they don’t apply.
Just think about what you will know tommorrow!!! – we’ll know magnetic motors still don’t work.
LOL
Mar 12th, 2010 at 6:28 am
This is a good example of the stupidity on this site:
\If you take two powerful magnets and place them 3 centimeters apart and let go of one. The one you let go of will move toward the one that is still stationary. That was kinetic ENERGY at work.
O-M-G, I must not be real because that violates the law of conservation of energy!\
Fact one: There is no violation of the conservation of energy in your example.
Fact two: After the two magnets have moved together, separate them by 3 centimetres. They now have potential energy. To recover this energy let them go – they move together converting the potential energy into kinetic energy.
Fact 3: Keep repeating steps at fact 2 until the reality sets in.
Mar 12th, 2010 at 7:26 am
This is another common set of statements that infuriates me. It demonstrates in one fell swoop [not "foul sweep" as I saw the other day! LOL] how misguided many people are.
“It blows my mind to read how so-called educated claim that a magnet generator/motor/free energy device or conditions are not possible as they would violate the so-called Laws of thermodynamics or the conservation of energy or another model of a formed law of mans perception – what a misinformed statement to make … the magnet is full of energy – all matter is – like atoms !!!”
The errors there are as follows (plus a few related clarifications):
1. As atoms are made of energy therefore magnets are too. The conversion of atoms into energy is an atomic reaction. Magnets are not a fuel source for a nuclear reactor.
2. Magnets do no contain energy as a result of being magnetised that can be released to drive a magnet motor. That is what loons from free energy websites choose to believe despite no prototypes or scientifically validated tests ever demonstrating it.
3. A bunch of scientists don’t sit down and make up laws of physics to annoy people. The laws are not artificial limits imposed like speeding or parking laws. Scientists try to find for example a mathematical way to define what they see happening. Once a phenomenon has been defined in such a fashioned then other scientists may choose to review it hoping to refine it or see it discarded. The review process has no end time but some things are so well established and understood no sane scientist is going to dispute it. People who don’t understand scientific processes or methods simply are unaware how things become theories [and generally don't even know the true definition of a theory for starters] and how they can then become laws.
4. When a person’s main source of knowledge is a website preaching that in some way or another that laws of physics are made up and bogus – and they don’t grasp even the most basic cast in concrete engineering and scientific principles it is no wonder there are people out there who think there is a conspiracy to stop free energy generators – the only conspiracy is that by the believers in such to cut out reality less it interfere with their uninformed and misguided beliefs.
So to all the free energy generator and motor fans out there – take off the tin foil hats, move out of the basement and go to night school and at least get a basic understanding of what the real world is about.
Mar 12th, 2010 at 9:23 am
“The review process has no end time but some things are so well established and understood no sane scientist is going to dispute it.”
I’m not going to argue with you Geoff, you sound like a person I would hate to know, much less talk to. But at the risk of sounding cliche that doesn’t sound like gain new insight and learn new things to me.