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new motor with shields 375 Schematic of How to Build a Magnetic MotorMany have tried building a magnetic motor. I am seeing a lot of scammers in my daily quest to alternative energy, but what I have learned is that energy is not free, perpetual motion machines do not exist, everything is taken from somewhere and put elsewhere.

There also is this so-called “free energy“, the zero-point energy, proven mathematically by many scientists. My duty as a green optimistic is to collect everything I see someone has struggled explaining and demonstrating, put it in one place and let the people see and comment. Such is the example of this magnetic motor.

But there are also “green pessimistic” websites. When they see something out of “common sense” boundaries, they freak out and scream something like”omg, this can’t be real! I need no proof! I must not think of this! Perish, Satan!”

I took such an article today as an inspiration because it talks about a magnetic motor, one of my favourite subjects, about which I haven’t heard much lately.

Here is the whole process of transforming the magnetic energy into mechanical energy, explained by the invetion’s author (Sandeep Acharya):

“Think of Two Powerful Magnets. One fixed plate over rotating disk with North side parallel to disk surface, and other on the rotating plate connected to small gear G1. If the magnet over gear G1′s north side is parallel to that of which is over Rotating disk then they both will repel each other. Now the magnet over the left disk will try to rotate the disk below in (think) clock-wise direction.

Now there is another magnet at 30 angular distance on Rotating Disk on both side of the magnet M1. Now the large gear G0 is connected directly to Rotating disk with a rod. So after repulsion if Rotating-Disk rotates it will rotate the gear G0 which is connected to gear G1. So the magnet over G1 rotate in the direction perpendicular to that of fixed-disk surface.

Now the angle and teeth ratio of G0 and G1 is such that when the magnet M1 moves 30 degree, the other magnet which came in the position where M1 was, it will be repelled by the magnet of Fixed-disk as the magnet on Fixed-disk has moved 360 degrees on the plate above gear G1. So if the first repulsion of Magnets M1 and M0 is powerful enough to make rotating-disk rotate 30-degrees or more the disk would rotate till error occurs in position of disk, friction loss or magnetic energy loss.

The space between two disk is just more than the width of magnets M0 and M1 and space needed for connecting gear G0 to rotating disk with a rod. Now I’ve not tested with actual objects. When designing you may think of losses or may think that when rotating disk rotates 30 degrees and magnet M0 will be rotating clock-wise on the plate over G2 then it may start to repel M1 after it has rotated about 25 degrees, the solution is to use more powerful magnets.

If all the objects are made precisely with measurements given and the rectangular cubic magnets are powerful enough to rotate more then 30 degrees in first repulsion then the system will work.

Here friction and other losses are neglected as magnets are much more powerful. But think of friction between rotating disk and Shaft, it can be neglected by using magnetic joint between them.

On the left primary measurements of needed objects are given. If you find any reason of not running this mechanism let me know.”

magneticdiagram Schematic of How to Build a Magnetic Motor

It seems to me that this is basically the Perendev magnetic motor presented in the same-named category of our blog.

What do you think? Could it work?

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  1. #1 by O. Losey on April 3, 2012 - 5:40 pm

    Hi Liam, You should know that Unicorns really do exist! They exist in the minds of anyone who believes in a realm of existence where beauty and magnificence abound. Everyone should have such a place to escape to when they are perturbed by the stresses of everyday life. Relax! Close your eyes and let your imagination reach out to your favorite fantasy land. Through the mists of times lost to adulthood you may, indeed, see a Unicorn!
    As for the Magnetic Motor, it was envisioned by a group of unrelated people who believed that such a thing was possible and could be brought into existence. Howard Johnson spent many years trying to develop a magnetic motor. Although he failed to build an efficient and powerful yet simple motor, he did give a hint as to how such a motor could be built. Howard said that you must have the correct type of magnets, the correct shape of magnets and the magnets must be positioned correctly. Unfortunately, Howard only managed to get the correct type of magnets. He didn’t get the shape correct and he certainly didn’t place his magnets correctly.
    But because Howard Johnson had to develop his own motor design, which was flawed, he was not able to produce his desired results. That does not mean that he would also have failed if he had been able to envision
    a motor design that would take into account, and solve, the problems that prevent most experimentors and inventors from attaining success.
    I don’t know if you are an inventor who has actually had hands on experience with trying to build a mag motor,
    or if you are simply a naysayer who believes in nothing until undisputable proof is offered. Don’t you realize that everything man has done was simply a “Unicorn” in his mind until he managed to bring it to a life of existence in the real world?
    I am also aware that this world is full of scam artists who try to sell half-baked ideas and other completely fraudulent plans to gullible people who are eager to believe well written hype.
    Back to the point of why Howard Johnson failed; if he had known how to block the side-field flux of his magnets and he had used a different shape of magnets, he probably would have achieved the success he desired. However, Howard had only one design firmly emplanted in his mind and he was determined to make it work. His mind was poisoned by the success he had in making his linear motor work well enough to push a toy car on a rail. He did get a “push” but he got no power. So, he was doomed to failure when he applied the linear motor principle to a rotary motor.
    Someday, someone else will discover the secrets to making a magnet motor function efficiently and powerful enough to be practical.
    So, don’t be so quick to condemn people who believe in Unicorns and magnetic motors. The energy is there in the magnets and it can be converted to kinetic energy, rotory or linear. Oh, and my friend Pegasus loves to romp with the Unicorns in the fields and valleys displayed in my most memorable dreams. Eat your heart out !

  2. #2 by khuram on March 31, 2012 - 8:31 am

    Dear sir
    i need free energy electric motor if you have so please contact me i am waiting your reply ok bye have a nice day
    regards
    khuram
    khuram.shahzad34@yahoo.com

  3. #3 by Aman shah on February 18, 2012 - 11:02 am

    Sorry for wrong name.I was addressing to Chawla,not chuck.It seems from your name you are from India .I am also from india

  4. #4 by Aman on February 18, 2012 - 10:54 am

    Hi chuck,please repply back!Give me your email address!I really appreciate your invention idea!
    My email address is amansanat@gmail.com
    I am inventing an engine that runs on gravity.I am developing gravity engines for vehicles and for small domestic usage

    This is “Gravity-Piston Impulse Kinetic Power Technology”. Its like releasing a heavy ball over a small light weight ball at some distance from earth surface in vacuum.This means without any considerable reduction of speed of bigger ball travelling towards ground,the smaller balls get extra energy due to gravitational amplification.Well my engine works on a similar principle.In other words ,it works on the principle of Gravitational Amplification.

    What exactly happens is somewhat very smilar to this equation:
    ” Impulsive gravitational energy absorbed and used by light weight small ball from the heavy ball due to gravitational amplification + standard gravity (9.8) ;as output Electricity (converted)= small loss of big ball due to Impulse resistance /back reactance + energy equivalent to go against standard gravity +fictional energy loss + Impulsive energy applied. ”

    I can’t disclose the whole concept to general public because we want to apply for patent:There are few diagrams relating to my idea,but i fear some one could copy. Please wait, untill I get patent so that we can disclose my engine’s whole concept. AT first,i intend to produce products only for domestic use and as a camping accessory.I am doing more research for increasing power output so that it can be used in future in cars.My engine uses heavy weight piston,gears , 4 flywheels in unconventional different way and pusher rods,but not balls.It was necessary for me to take example of ball to explain my basic idea I used in my concept .(the ball system is very much analogous to the piston-gear system I am using in my engine). 

    NOTE:This is not a Perpectual Motion Machine.This is a real machine.

    My engine is inspired my nature:
    My idea is based on general Laws of physics/nature and is based on what we see daily in nature!The example of balls i mentioned is related to what we can see daily.

    We can see the apple falling over a leaf of the tree holding it,this sets leaf in oscillation due to impulsive energy and can be useful if tapped.

    So there is no chance of failure of this concept!There is no superior bigger proof / Evidence than nature!Nature proves that my concept as absolutely right!

    Surprisingly Modern Aircraft wings designs are inspired from nature,wings of birds!My invention is no exception,it’s also inspired by nature!

  5. #5 by Aman on February 17, 2012 - 4:38 pm

    Dear chuck,
    Nothing can break the law of conservation of energy!Yes E=mc2 is questionable(doubt) because it’s based on speed of light concept and neutrinos were recorded to break photon speed.

  6. #6 by Aman on February 16, 2012 - 5:51 pm

    Hi,I am inventing a real Non-Perpectual gravity engine.

    Please vote for my gravity engine invention idea on:

    http://www.quirky.com/ideations/173099

    Less than 1 month left for my idea to be selected by Quirky!please support and share this with as many people as possible.
    Gravity engine will change the world ,it will change how we produce 90 percent of our everyday electricity.Thanks!

    (All the details about basic analogous principle of my engine are given in the Project website on Quirky.You need to be a signed up member of Quirky to cast votes,Quirky membership is a free membership.)

  7. #7 by Tony Foulsham on February 16, 2012 - 5:14 pm

    Hey There People

    I have read several posts on here and irrespective if the Magnetic Motor works or not, you have to take into account the following criteria,before you go any further, because it is producing dc voltage.

    For those that do not know;
    dc voltage is Direct Current, in other words a straight wave form, similar to this symbol -
    ac votage is Alternating Current, a cyclic wave form, similar to this symbol ~

    Here in the UK the voltage is 230v ac 50Hz or you can get commercial 415v, which is three phase.

    Forget 110v don’t even go there.

    The problems lie in the above sentence; “230v ac 50Hz ”

    230v ac . . . . . . . . if it works you have to transform it TO 230v ac not a problem with a transformer.

    50Hz . . . . . . . . . . This is where the real fun begins, for our electrical appliances / equipment to run smoothly they must have 50Hz, or 50 cycles per second.

    Just imagine working on your computer and for some unknown reason the voltage started getting faster, in the industry we call it a surge, thats why we have various bits of kit to smooth it / stabilise it etc etc.

    I am not going to go into all the other ramifications but you can see my point.

    Now if somebody, anybody can qualify my statements and how these can be problems overcome, then this Project needs a coat of looking at.

    Yes if you haven’t already guessed it I have spent all my working life in the electrical industy and I firmly believe I may have just a little knowledge on ac & dc supplies.

    I look forward to the replies

    Tony

  8. #8 by chawla on February 10, 2012 - 1:05 am

    Hi ALL

    i know you all are agree 1 point, no one have ready and working magnet rotating motor, :) , you are thinking all corners of your mind, like cant break physics law etc :) , if you found 400 years back human, they could shock and death to see air plans , cars, motors, etc, oh i am going write long, shortly, dont think physics law, bc physics law was created by humans, and some inventors apear and write and gone, can u write your laws, under god created universe
    more short, i have create proto type electricity generation (3000watt), without useing anything( fuel, water, air etc) before 5 years, and still running
    powerfull magnet rotation motor i made last july 2011, under physics law :) , and still runing, target time is 1 year run, all time my camera making video, bunch of hdd’s and now useing falsh to store them, after june 2012 i will jump to make it patent, and then world will ready to enjoy new technology, see ya

  9. #9 by Liam on February 7, 2012 - 6:57 am

    There is no truth when it comes to magnetic motors apart from the FACT they don’t and can’t ever work.

    If anyone can explain how one is supposed to work then that will confirm their ignorance of the laws of physics.

  10. #10 by Harvey on February 4, 2012 - 11:44 pm

    No “free energy magnetic motor” has ever worked. Never. Not Once. Not Ever. Only videos are from the scammers, never from a real independent person. That’s why only the plans are available. When it won’t work, they blame it on you, and keep your money. If it worked, you would be able to buy a guaranteed working model. This has been going on for 30 years or more – still not one has worked. Ignorance of the laws of physics, does not allow you to break those laws.

  11. #11 by Geoff Fritz on January 21, 2012 - 3:03 am

    Maybe particles that exceed the speed of light and were predicted by the theory of relativity will still obey the laws of physics and thus won’t break the laws of conservation of energy.

    Reality bites.

  12. #12 by Chuck on January 21, 2012 - 1:09 am

    Maybe the particles recently found that may exceed the speed of light are also capable of violating conservation of energy?

  13. #13 by Dee on January 5, 2012 - 6:07 pm

    Im not suppose to write here, but what you people here believe is possible, are true. The only problem is if one wants to create what we call “Magnetic Rotation”, one can not use the fields. There is a small area in any magnet called the “Magnetic Centers”, which is around 8 times stronger than the fields. The sequence is before pole center and after face center, and there for unlike other motors one must mesh the stationary centers and work the rotation from the inner of the center to the outer. The fields is the reason a PM drive is very slow, because the fields dont allow kinetic creation by limit the magnetic center distance. This is why, it is possible to create magnetic rotation as you all believe and know, BUT, one can never do it with a rotor. Do not even try a concept with a rotor it won’t work. I hope some of you’s can understand this and understand thats the reason a very few people have or seen real working PM drives.

  14. #14 by Liam on December 23, 2011 - 5:05 am

    Denise,
    Creative avoidance gets you no where.

    So how does a magnetic motor work?

  15. #15 by Denise Henning on December 22, 2011 - 1:10 pm

    Liam,
    You are such a sweetie – Take some Prozac or something before you pop a vein. You sound so excited about all of this. Don’t worry apprentice when the time is right you will be one of the first to know. Exiting isn’t it?
    LOL

  16. #16 by Liam on December 22, 2011 - 11:55 am

    Denise,
    That was the response I expected. So answer these simple questions:
    - cite a reference to any working perpetual motion machine anywhere on the planet
    - state exactly where the energy comes from in a magnetic motor if all the forces in one add up to zero
    - tell us when you are going to into therapy

    LOL

  17. #17 by Denise Henning on December 22, 2011 - 9:27 am

    Liam,
    My answers are; No, no and sorry I can’t tell you yet. Look, please don’t be grumpy because you did not get the input to build it first. Gees I can’t even tell you what we call it yet. But you will soon know. Sorry to sound so egotistical, but I have been excited about this for the last 4 years. Now don’t fret………. soon you will know what you need to know.

  18. #18 by Liam on December 21, 2011 - 4:30 pm

    “This motor of mine does more than your mind will ever grasp.”

    No it doesn’t because you’re making it up. I assume you’re involved with the HoJo scam or similar and you’re trying to use this forum to promote your con.

    If you have a perpetual motion device then describe exactly how it breaks the laws of nature. Like that is going to happen.

    You’re all talk.

  19. #19 by Denise Henning on December 21, 2011 - 3:38 pm

    Yea – know all of this. This motor of mine does more than your mind will
    ever grasp. The shift begins……..

  20. #20 by Liam on December 21, 2011 - 3:25 pm

    Denise,
    No it won’t work as no one has ever built a working magnetic motor and they don’t work for very simple reasons:
    - there is no energy in magnets
    - no perpetual motion machines work
    - the force required to bring two magnets into a position to repel is the same as the force released when they do repel therefore no energy gain

  21. #21 by Denise Henning on December 21, 2011 - 3:07 pm

    Yes this will work. Just a few tips – Use “temperature” to stabilize the magnets and weight to minimize the amount of magnets + use stronger magnets. (Had a dream about this huge underground machine) Why are we not using this concept yet? South Africa needs electricity and stuff ….  Want to know more?

  22. #22 by Liam on December 21, 2011 - 12:29 pm

    Oh look, another scam magnetic motor. Goodbye to $ hello to lies.

  23. #23 by HoJo Motor on December 21, 2011 - 11:23 am

    I just came across some website about magnetic motor, i highly recommend this site for further reading and guide, http://awiedean.wordpress.com/2011/12/21/the-best-way-to-produce-free-electricity/

  24. #24 by Liam on December 4, 2011 - 4:48 pm

    How can people in this day and age believe in workingmagnetic motors? There is more evidence for unicorns.

  25. #25 by Geoff Fritz on August 10, 2011 - 10:44 am

    Ernest DIzon,
    The copper aluminium boat is a single cell and thus will only produce about 2 volts. It will produce limited power but will corrode very quickly. Wear a life jacket for extended sea trials. LOL.

  26. #26 by Geoff Fritz on August 9, 2011 - 6:14 pm

    Ernest DIzon,
    “…the secret is in the “SHAPE” of the magnets” No it isn’t. The real secret is that magnetic motors can’t and don’t work. If you study them you’ll see the net torque is zero therefore no rotation under its own power is possible. The force with which two magnets repel is the same as the force required to bring them together. Ditto, no net gain in force. No rotation. I won’t even bother with the Laws of thermodynamics.

  27. #27 by Ernest DIzon on August 9, 2011 - 10:26 am

    one of my pet project is:getting Electricity from sea water,this will be a boat a regular fourteen foot double-hull the out side hull would be alminium,the inner hull,will be copper but between the out side hull and the inside is where the sea water would pass through,with the electrodes connecting to a step-up transformer;once this boat is put on the seawater, the motor automatically starts,if the sea water gives 12 volt?when pass through a step-up transformer,it can amplify the voltage to 110 or 220,more then enough to proppel the boat forward with out batteries or gasoline;but power from the sea.

  28. #28 by Ernest DIzon on August 9, 2011 - 10:17 am

    Two disk,disk number 1 has thirty magnets on the circumference of the disk;and is permanently mounted;disk number two;also ,with thirty magnets around the circumference,when put in close proximity;through a simple clutch-system? the second disk would spin;connect a dynamo or generator? you,ll have free Electricity,the secret is in the “SHAPE” of the magnets,on the first disk,I,m building a demonstration model ;and will video-tape it,to interested viewers,soon,it is in the preliminary stage ;as of now.the configuration of this motor I invented? is similar to the “stone henge,of England;but when built into multiple disk?it will be very powerful,its a boon to car-makers,boat,s submarine (silent proppelent)and gyrocopters good for military purpose ,because it is silent ;and that would surprise the enemies.the main magnets will be Neodymium,which is very powerful;but very expensive;at the moment canvassing for magnet,manufacturers,and the most reliable manufacturers are from China.Contact:Dizonernesto88@yahoo.com This motor needs  no batteries,and no gasoline or out side scources;it is self-contained,pure magnetic-powered,this motor will be call Dyna Flux (Dynamic Fluxtuation)and uses the power of repulsion.

  29. #29 by Trener on June 24, 2011 - 7:14 am

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  30. #30 by AMAN SHEEL on June 20, 2011 - 6:46 pm

    HEY ,
    ITS POSSIBLE TO CREATE FREE ENERGY!

    I DISCOVERED IT!

    IT IS WHEEL DRIFT MOTION TECHNOLOGY.

  31. #31 by Gene on April 29, 2011 - 6:59 pm

    Hi Rob
    This guy has 2 x 1 x 1/4. He has 4 for $25 (Emovendo Magnets & Elements). Google him.
    Probably inverters and batterys are your best way to go then if you want sine wave.
    You can buy straight AC sine wave generators. I install them all the time for hydro but you are talking big coin. The price for the generator alone (without the turbine) I would have to work out as they come in a package. Rough estimate would be around $6500 (AUSD) for a 5KW generator
    I have also installed AC Inverters that change AC generator power to correct AC wave for feed back to the grid systems. Once again, big dollars. Will have to look up my books but from memory 4kw inverter was around $3500 (AUSD).
    If you want to check out some cool ac sine wave generators google “platytpus power”. I use a lot of their products for the hydro installs. You wouldnt need the turbines but the motors might be of interest.

  32. #32 by Rob on April 28, 2011 - 1:53 am

    Hey Gene, I wish i did’nt need to worry about the pure sine but every thing we own now has a stupid circuit board in it and everything is going energy star rated. If they don’t have pure sine then they run rough and use lots of power or burn out and its everything, DVD, VHS players, computers, dishwashers, fridges, stoves, microwaves our fridge even has digital temp readouts for both the fridge and the freezer, even our veggy steamer has a digital timer, flat screen t.v’s, you can’t get away from it anymore, the world has gone teck crazzy. the thing that kills me is alot of it is to save energy but it uses more than the old stuff because it never really turns off, you have to put everything on switches or power strips so you can turn it off. I don’t know if i can get away from using batteries for my project. I don’t have wind at night and solar is worthless at night and on cloudy days, so unless i can find the parts i need for my motor or figure a way to get more power out than i put in using an electric motor, then im stuck with batteries and an inverter and keep tinkering around untill i make something work. Any ideas on my magnet problem? If i can’t find the 2×1/4×1/4 then if i can find them 2x1x1/4 n48-50 magnatized through 1″ would work and would be stronger. I have looked at magnet stores and ebay but so far nothing.

  33. #33 by Genefewings on April 27, 2011 - 7:33 am

    Hi Rob
    Not sure if they put out pure sine wave or not.
    Not many appliances will be that sensitive to power suply except for lap top chargers and particular aplliances with sensitive mother boards (like the smart drive washing mchine ironically so).
    If the magnetic motor will drive the pma constantly would there be any need for batteries as there wold be no need to store power?

  34. #34 by Rob on April 27, 2011 - 4:55 am

    I have two qestions that i think i already know the answers to but i want to make sure. If i put two magnets on top of each other, will it make a larger stronger magnet or will it stay the same? Im guessing the same. If i use a strong magnet against a weeker one will it work or will the stronger one over take the smaller one? Im guessing it will over take it.

  35. #35 by Rob on April 27, 2011 - 3:42 am

    Gene, i forgot to say that i found that size magnet but it was at the most expensive place in the world, K&J Magnetics but it was only n42, i really need n48-n50 but not having much luck

  36. #36 by Rob on April 27, 2011 - 2:48 am

    Hi Gene, Those smart drives you say are 240v, that would be fine if they are wired the same as what we have coming into our homes. Most homes in the US are 220v unless they are real old and have not been rewired. My home is 112 years old but i have rewired it so i have 220 now, two 110 lines, one common, one ground. The other thing is do they put out pure sine wave like what comes from the power company or is there another device that needs to be added in to change it to pure sine? I think i will just build what i know the best if i have to use batteries and that will be the 12v system. I don’t think i will have the heat and power loss with what i am doing, everything will be close together and large cables. Also nobody has left a comment on the question i had on the 2×1/4×1/4 n50 magnatized through 1/4 magnets, do you know of any place that might have those?

  37. #37 by Genefewings on April 26, 2011 - 3:17 am

    Hi Rob
    Just to add to last comment – u will get slightly less loss of current when using higher dc voltages but not to th point that it will ok for running long distances efficiently

  38. #38 by Genefewings on April 26, 2011 - 3:15 am

    HI Rob
    You will get the same amount of heat through wires whether it be 12v,48v, 72v or whatever one you choose when its “DC” current. U need large wires to avoid all current and heat loss through DC current. Therefore if u choose 12 or 48v in dc the problem remains the same.
    If u switch to AC current then that all changes. You can travel a long distance with smaller wires no worries. The smart drives can produce AC or DC depending on how they are re wired.
    If you are trying to power a house of some kind then all of your appliances will already be AC obviously so you might be right to run them staright from your motor. Just put a big flywheel to deal with start up load of fridges etc.
    I will have a look for those plans for the smart drive and email them to you.
    You can hook up several smart drive PMA’s on top of each other driving from the same shaft. . From memory they make about800watts each.
    One problem you may have (but im not sure) is that fisher and paykel is made in New Zealand and are wired for 240v AC where as the US is 110v AC. Can you buy fisher and paykal sfuff over there thats 110v?

  39. #39 by Rob on April 24, 2011 - 4:23 am

    Hey, does anybody know where i can get 2×1/4×1/4 n50 magnatized through 1/4? I have been looking every where and all i can find is 1×1/4×1/4.

  40. #40 by Rob on April 23, 2011 - 4:17 am

    Hi Gene, ill have to look at the smart drives but another problem i am having is i am not finding any pma no matter how big it is that puts out very much power. There was one on youtube that claimed to put out 800w but i don’t know if that was true and that still is not very much, thats why i was wondering if i could wire in series 2-4 pma’s to get what ever voltage i wanted. If you know how to wire them like that then send me a diagram both single phase and three phase. The heat problem with the 12 & 24v is mostly in the wiring, it needs to have large cables to carry that low of power and there can’t be much distance between the pma and the batteries or there is power loss. Its just like running power from the house to a shop thats about 300 feet on small wire, by the time the power gets to the end of the line the power is weak and it heats the line up. If you pull very many amps on a 12 or 24v system it heats up fast. Also, i don’t know the metric system. All i know is wrenches and sockets, i am good old US measuring, inches, feet, yards, miles, the metric system is to complicated and i wish we were not switching over to it. I looked at what you have for your motor so far and it’s going to be big. Here is my e-mail if you want to send those diagrams, if you know how to do it. rfrisby@xmission.com

  41. #41 by Genefewings on April 22, 2011 - 4:42 am

    Hi Rob
    I really cant see how 12v would make more heat thatn 24, 36 or whatever BUT from memeory (I havnt done a fisher and paykel smart drive conversion for about 12months) I think smart drive PMA’s are 3 phase and each circuit can be wired for 12v. Therefore you could have all in paralell for 12v. 2 in series and then 1in parallel to those 2 for 24v. Or 3 in series for 36v. Thats on the one single PMA.
    Have a look on U tube as there are a few people playing with these particular smart drive PMA’s on there.
    They are fairly large though. About 500mm across.

  42. #42 by Rob on April 22, 2011 - 3:25 am

    Gene, Ya that was me but it was’nt so much the cheep part as it was trying to find a good plan for 48v and i havn’t found anything yet. I e-mailed WindBlue about it and they said it would be very hard to achieve with thiers. The only reason i am looking into this is because a battery company here told me to only build a 48v system because the 12 & 24v systems generate to much heat and power loss. Can i wire 4, 12v pma’s or 2, 24v pma’s together in sieres to add up to 48v? If so i do not know how to do it and will that take care of the heat problem? I am about to just forget it and just build a 12v system. Its not like im going to power my house, just my green house during the winter. Matt, if you do not have wind all the time it will be hard to make anything cheep work. Your wind would have to be pretty constant to keep your voltage from dropping to low, other than that you will need your turbin, rectifire, charge controler, 12v deep cycle battery or two 6v batteries wired together to make one big 12v batt and then a small inverter to change the power from dc to ac to run your battery charger. Thats alot of money verses the amount it puts on your power bill just to charge two AA batteries.

  43. #43 by Genefewings on April 21, 2011 - 10:55 pm

    Hey Matt
    U can buy one on ebay ready to go for about $40.
    Also, you can drive a small dc motor with a fan and produce currently easily. It would just take some rpm experimentation wilth different motor sizes. Kids toys and old VHS video recorders have heaps of dc motors. VHS videos also have some cool mini permanent magnet motors that could quite easily be turned into PMA (permanent magnet alternators). I pulled one apart about a month ago. They are mini versions of the Fisher and Paykal smart drive washing motors that everyone uses for wind genny alternators. I have used the smart drive motors on hydro electric set ups but not wind. You can wire them to produce AC or DC. Really handy conversion. You can acess the info on how to do it on “the back shed” (google it). They usually go for about $100 a piece on ebay or free at washing machine repairers. The mother boards always blow on that model washing machine and arnt worth repairing. This leaves a good motor in a useless washing machine.
    Havnt done any experiments with the the mini PMA,s yet from the VHS as I have been so busy with the magnet motor.
    That reminds me – Rob – wernt you looking for a good cheap PMA?
    Also, I agree with the comments about videos. I posted up the videos on u tube just for all the green optomist guys to look at and random people start leaving inane stupid comments.

    How can we post straight to this site?

  44. #44 by Matt on April 21, 2011 - 9:46 pm

    I was just hoping to make a small wind turbine to charge a couple AA batteries but I’m getting overwhelmed. I only want to spend a few dollars. Is it possible?

  45. #45 by Rob on April 20, 2011 - 4:13 am

    I was wondering if when i get my motor finished how i can just show you guys and not put it on you-tube? I will not want the entire world to see it

  46. #46 by Jason J on April 16, 2011 - 10:30 am

    Looking forward to your final result there Gene. Keep the fire underneath ya!

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