Daniel Dingel’s Working Water Powered Car


Daniel-Dingel_filling_water_car_300This is a Daniel Dingel’s water car working with REAL water… through electrolysis. It seems that the re-mix of hydrogen and oxygen actually produces more energy than it takes to split them!

Daniel Dingel from Philippines has made 100 motors work on water and wants to spread them to the world, so any country can reverse engineer it and make something better off it. It’s really amazing how we were taught since kids that water only kills fire… not always!

Daniel Dingel’s water powered car is probably, from what he says, based on the same principle as Stanley Meyer’s car. He converts water to the two gasses (H2 and O) by splitting it using a certain electrical frequency.

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It’s well known among free energy groups that hydrogen generators can be made this way, and the fun part is that the power that the water splitting system uses is smaller than the power it outputs (like it does in the case of DC current applied to the same water). Further scientific research has to be done in this field.

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KingsleeSpurling
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KingsleeSpurling

The example you have given prof actually  goes this way 50cc x 3000revs = 150 litres a minute of air to expand a volume that big you need 150 divided by 1728 = .086 litres a minute of hho thats very easy remember 1 amp for 1 hour will make 6 litres of HHO at 1  bar

Professor53
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Lets do some simple math. Web links for ref included. http://www.ehow.com/how_7822268_calculate-air-flow-stroke-engine.html 50cc very small generator. Running 3000 rpm, 2 stroke. Formula is as per posted web link above. 50X3000 X 1 divided by 1728= 86.8 CFM thats a lot of needed intake. I just have never seen a HHO device produce anything near that much gas. The HHO devices I have built might produce one cubic foot of gas over 1 minute if everything was fresh and new start. Thats with 2 amps. Theres no argument that a engine can run on HHO. Its a matter of creating enough HHO… Read more »

KingsleeSpurling
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KingsleeSpurling

I have been over all this crap before and you can see all the math in previous posts

Kingsleespurling
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Your calculation is wrong because you are using cubic feet and cubic centimeters in same calculation that doesn’t work unify your measurement standards.

Professor53
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I havent done my math? Your kidding right? Im enjoying reading about all this and I enclude reading your acticles also. Share with me 2 small things. Hows many litters per minute do you think a normal HHO device would give connected to a small generator? How many liters of intake vapors per minute do you think it takes to run that same combustable engine? You cant use expandion of liquid gasoline here. SHow me in liters per minute of HHO generated and liters of HHO needed to run that device. I have built a number of HHO spilting devices.… Read more »

Professor53
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The main problem with HHO, is that you cant produce enough of it for a motor to run. Even the smallest generator/gas engine would need 400 litters of gas/air mixture to run and a HHO system has a hard time producing even 40 liters of gas. Dont worry about any thing else, the generators and HHO systems cant produce enough gas mixture for the smallest running motor when using a genrator on its self. Sure, you could have 10 HHO units running 40 liters a minute but the engine could never get close to producting enough electrical power to provide… Read more »

KingsleeSpurling
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KingsleeSpurling

you havnt done your math thats for sure

Dead Parrot
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Dead Parrot

Kingslee Spurling isn’t the doctor he claims to be, he must have missed his injections recently and the delusions are returning. He also claims to be immortal and was shot 37 times by the CIA. While I am sure he uses a calculator better then he uses digital scales, he is quite incapable of understanding anything that isnt injectable into his arm.

KingsleeSpurling
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KingsleeSpurling

this was written by heath Tunstall he has stolen off me and belted me when I asked for my money would you employ a person like that? and I think by my input to this below argument proves that I have a doctorate if you bothered to read any of it and do some simple math you are incapable of and plenty of people who know the real me know that something is happening with my lack of ageing.

Dr Kingslee Spurling
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Dr Kingslee Spurling

i didnt look it up in a book liam i was taught to calculate it, unlike you, nitrogen has an Sg of .98 you have completely ignored 5 noble gases that apear in the periodic table and thus in nature yes the Sg of air is 1 but you wouldnt have been taught these things and kelvin was the first person to cite the amount of nitrogen in the atmospere via the development of the temperature scale, every instrument tech from rmit has been taught to calculate these things you have simply looked up a botched experiment they did not… Read more »

Liam
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Liam

Dr Klueless, I see where you made your mistake. You are quoting the “Critical Temperature” for the nitrogen. Like most of the self taught you don’t use correct terminology and wonder why people have to argue with you to get to first base. In the real world of science it is normal to quote various gaseous properties at STP (Standard temperature and pressure). You don’t realise this that is why you struggle. The Critical Temperature for nitrogen is -147C which is the highest temperature it can be converted to a liquid whilst under enormous pressure. The normal way to quote… Read more »

Kingsleespurling
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Kelvin worked out the percentage of nitrogen in the atmosphere to be 70% with his abosute zero tests and air weighs 1 gram per litre of capacity are you a dumb bastard or something

Dr Kingslee Spurling
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Dr Kingslee Spurling

Rutherford discovered it he did not know how to measure it kelvin did and proved it to liquify at -147degC giving us the kelvin temprerature scale this is a process of cooling not compression like kelvin used you state to get -196deg C but it is not what kelvin did are you saying lord Kelvin was incorect ? the noble gas volume is 78% not nitrogen its 70% and is calculatable with its Sg in relation to air that has an Sg of 1 this can be proven with all the gases in the periodic table and there is 10… Read more »

Liam
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Liam

Dr Klueless, Here is a quote from a company that produces nitrogen. “AN INERT GAS WITH MANY INDUSTRIAL APPLICATIONS TO PROTECT, INERT A COLD RESERVE: IT CAN BE LIQUEFIED BY COOLING IT AT -196°C. Nitrogen was discovered in 1772 by Daniel Rutherford who called it noxious air or fixed air. But it was Lavoisier who, in 1786, isolated it. The name nitrogen comes from Latin nitrogenium, where nitrum (from Greek nitron) means “saltpetre”, and genes means “forming”. Nitrogen is mainly found in the atmosphere, where it accounts for 78 % by volume of the air we breath. ” So your… Read more »

Dr Kingslee Spurling
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Dr Kingslee Spurling

Liam and geoff it seems you both were bullies at school and you now bash your wives, if you go down the path of lord Kelvin and the kelvin templerature scale being derived from the liquifaction point of nitrogen being around -147 deg C you get 70% nitrogen in air and the same when you consider its Sg it is actually calculateble and actually comes in around 70% this is what kelvin taught who was the first to come up with an acurate reading of nitrogen google wont tell you this, but learning the physics and math of the instuments… Read more »

Liam
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Liam

Doctor Klueless, That is only a link to a site based on the Brown book. It is not scientifically valid information- it was is referred to as “vanity press” whereby an author puts together unreferenced pseudo-science and tells the ill-informed it is science. I went to numerous science based websites and got the following information about the atmosphere: 78.084 % – Nitrogen 20.946 % – Oxygen 0.934% – Argon 0.034% – Other gases I assume you can use Google too. (obviously not) Science isn’t your thing. Quit while you’re behind. Don’t bother responding, I can see why Mr Fritz gave… Read more »

Dr Kingslee Spurling
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Dr Kingslee Spurling

http://amasci.com/weird/bgf1.html is where you read about Browns gas or water gas being hho you will see with further investigation i am correct liam i have done my research unlike you, and with nitrogen at 78% when you consider the concentration of the other gasses in our air you end up with 108%. I dont believe evereything i read i use rational and reasoning, which is why i have a doctorate, i know my temperatures sound excessive but are calculateble with boyles gas law in relation to browns gas, this is the product of electrolysis i dont know what this hydroliysis… Read more »

Liam
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Liam

Doctor Klueless, You seem to make up a lot of rubbish. There is no mon-atomic form of hydrogen or oxygen. You get that nonsense from fringe dwelling loonies who believe in free energy devices. Hydrolysis of water always yields H2 and O2 – show me a link to a peer reviewed document that says otherwise. I just read all you other posts too. You have never been to a chemistry lesson and you don’t know how to look up facts in proper books do you? I take it you are self taught, which proves the adage: “The self taught often… Read more »

Kingsleespurling
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Water gas is hho .monotonic hydrogen. One oxygen 2 hydrogen hydrolysis is splitting the hho and making H2. O2 that’s a different gas again

Dr Kingslee Spurling
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Dr Kingslee Spurling

exert from yull brown patent on the gas
Brown’s Gas is an exact mixture of two hydrogen and one oxygen in their atomic molecular form, written 2H0. I often call this mon-atomic to differentiate from “normal” hydrogen and oxygen gas in their di-atomic form , written as 2H 2:O2. At omic (or mon-atomic) H and O are COMPLETELY different from di-atomic H2 and O2.

Dr Kingslee Spurling
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Dr Kingslee Spurling

My university lecturer agreed with me on gold and nitrogen you still havnt studied it further, and your equation is un-balanced, go dan dingle build and sell as many engines as you can, lets destroy the world order as we know it, your full of lies mr fritz better exists, when are your agents going to kill me for telling the truth, you clearly have not sat down and thought about anything in length, instead relying on you bachelors deg, i have a doctorate for breaking the ground on such things as super conductors which actually saw them work.

Geoff Fritz
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Geoff Fritz

It is obvious you have not had much schooling as your grasp of chemistry is nil. I’ll try one last time to explain the facts then that’s it. You’re either defective or stupid or both. Hydrolysis of water: Water comprises of two atoms of hydrogen bound with one atom of oxygen. Hydrogen gas only exists as two atoms of hydrogen bound together, shown as H-H or written as H2. Oxygen gas only exists as two atoms of oxygen bound together, shown as O-O or written as O2. Written as an unbalanced equation it looks like this: H2O -> H2 +… Read more »

Geoff Fritz
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Geoff Fritz

You don’t know what you’re talking about.

Dr Kingslee Spurling
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Dr Kingslee Spurling

less than 2 hours to answer this time all my calculation are correct by boyles law you havnt even sat down and studied anything i dont see how an atom of h2O could disasociate into anything other than hho where does the other oxygen come from Professor Brown found gas flow rates of 1000 litres an hour with 16 amps or 350 litres to the Kw this is common knowledge by anyone who has done some gas physics and and an expansion ratio stated at 1860:1 http://amasci.com/weird/bgf1.html read about it there and combustion temperatures of up to 8000 deg C… Read more »

Fritz
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Fritz

You are now sounding obsessive. MY calculations on the volumes of H2 and O2 produced from electrolysis of water are correct. As there is no nitrogen in the gas mixture from water you choosing to now mention it is irrelevant. The electrolysis of water produces H2 and O2. This talk of “HHO” is the nonsense talk of poorly educated clowns who have never studied chemistry. Go talk to any chemist on the entire planet and they’ll tell you that you’re wrong. But as you don’t know how to listen or do research what its the point? The burn temperatures you… Read more »

Dr Kingslee Spurling
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Dr Kingslee Spurling

put the info on the browns gas site into boyles gas law if you dont believe mine as you will find i am right or close free energy exists the governments we elect are to stupid and selfish to give us such things to do in our everyday lives, a cracker at a petrolium refinery burns more crude oil than it makes petrol thats the sort of crap we put up with and carbon taxes to boot, we have had a lot better for a long time, most of them are dead for there troubles of trying to give us… Read more »

Kingsleespurling
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Water is electrolysed to hho not H2 O2 water is 2 hydrogen 1 oygen where does the extra oxygen come from in O2

Dr Kingslee Spurling
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Dr Kingslee Spurling

15 minutes to answer it seems you have a compusive disorder or you are just very atentive my temperature calculations are correct by the ideal gas law you get radicaly different answers when you have no nitrogen in the reaction 1 cc of water gas and a litre of nitrogen free air does burn at 6000 deg C and 1 cc of water gas with nothing around it implodes at 600,000 eg C by memory, at uni they teach you nitrogen is 79% of our atmosphere, it is not, and they claim gold has an Sg of 19.7 or thereabouts,… Read more »

Geoff Fritz
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Geoff Fritz

Dr Kingslee Spurling,
So far the numbers you have quoted have all been found to be woefully inaccurate and don’t appear in any physics books.

Cite sources for your arguments. Otherwise you’re just another crackpot.

Meanwhile, try different medication.

Dr Kingslee Spurling
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Dr Kingslee Spurling

you can believe what you like i know what i saw the murder of many individuals, and i met the guy who tucked her brains back into her head, toyota studied it properly and concluded it worked and insinuated nothing else. i have met many non believers and after further study they came to the same conclusion as toyota it works, you clearly do not understand what is happening in the loop or the whole process in general. it has been built and was on the discovery channel you can read a post about it here http://www.coofercat.com/node/451#comment-7235 you will come… Read more »

Geoff Fritz
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Geoff Fritz

BS 1 Sealed loop engine – mmm. Electricity converts water to H2 and O2. The combustion of H2 and O2 yields water and heat. Unless the heat is converted directly to electricity the device cannot be a closed loop. BS 2 Stop with the murdered girlfriend BS – you’re now sounding idiotic. Upload the footage to YouTube as proof. BS 3 If Toyota stated the design invalidates the second law of thermodynamics it means you were dreaming. I think perhaps Toyota said it won’t work because it attempts to violate the second law of thermodynamics. Huge difference. I’d suggest you… Read more »

Geoff Fritz
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Geoff Fritz

BS 1 Sealed loop engine – mmm. Electricity converts water to H2 and O2. The combustion of H2 and O2 yields water and heat. Unless the heat is converted directly to electricity the device can be a closed loop. BS 2 Stop with the murdered girlfriend BS – you’re now sounding idiotic. Upload the footage to YouTube as proof. BS 3 If Toyota stated the design invalidates the second law of thermodynamics it means you were dreaming. I think perhaps Toyota said it won’t work because it attempts to violate the second law of thermodynamics. Huge difference. I’d suggest you… Read more »

Dr Kingslee Spurling
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Dr Kingslee Spurling

My engine with the sealed loop has been built by the australian submarine corperation some years ago and actually powers a small experimental catterpillar drive it works, many people have died in the cause for hho powered engines , and many people have been threatened and paid off, my girlfriends murder was actually filmed by 7 melbourne australia, along with the death of 6 invividuals who came to her aid all dumped in the sewer for rats to eat, everything i have stated has been calaborated by people with doctorates and professors toyota stated my design invalidates the second law… Read more »

Geoff Fritz
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Geoff Fritz

The volume of gas produced from water is always defined at standard temperature and pressure and that is why the figures you quote are clearly incorrect. The story about you girlfriend and the SAS – pure fantasy. “The output of the engine is calculated as follows, fuel in litres minute x calorie bond of fuel x eficency, so at 40 amps of current , being headlight current will produce 4 litres of gas in 1 minute so 4 x 102.2 x 85% = 34,748 kw” – ignoring of course all that is incorrect. You have done fusion – you are… Read more »

Dr Kingslee Spurling
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Dr Kingslee Spurling

i have been told by other water engine developers that you get more gas than is calculated by you and when you electolize 1 litre of water you measure 2039 litres these are people who have sold water powered engines to the military as generator sets and his company was shut down and his life threatened, in my case when my girlfriend looked into intelectual property rights in 1987 she was murdered outside the patents office by the police and SAS. The output of the engine is calculated as follows, fuel in litres minute x calorie bond of fuel x… Read more »

Fritz
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Fritz

Here is the claim on Dr Kingslee Spurling’s website.: “When Dc current is passed through water it makes gas (water gas) 1 liter of water can make 2039 liters of gas with an expansion ratio of 1729/1 when exploded with a spark it turns back into the same amount of water that made the gas to start so its recyclable, and when circulated in as sealed loop you keep all of the fuel when circulated with a gas that will not change state when combined with fuel elements but expands and contracts with temperature.. Combustion temperatures start at 6,000degC and… Read more »

Dr Kingslee Spurling
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Dr Kingslee Spurling

If you want to read about my research and my design on the idea go to my waterpoweredengines site you can see alternatives to the cylinder engine you can also download what nasa copyrighted for me as well, the site contains fuel technology, materials technology, and anti-gravity, and electic perpetual engines http://sites.google.com/site/waterpoweredengines/

Pilgrim
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If “scientists” can be paid to advance junk-science like ‘global warming’, they can be paid to research this technology and get nowhere forever, just like the American Cancer Society . . . if they ever found a cure, they’d be out of business while the “cure for cancer” is dispensed daily in Tijuana, but remains illegal throughout the US.

liam
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liam

Kingslee Spurling, I know my maths and chemistry. I see you didn’t disagree that the temperature information you gave was incorrect. Any decent physics book will confirm I’m right. The expansion ratio number of 1729 is meaningless without stating the pressure and volume as gas will expand infinitely. A litre of water contains 111grams of hydrogen and 889 grams of oxygen. 111grams of hydrogen gas contains 55.6 moles of gas. At standard temperature and pressure a mole of gas occupies 22.4 litres. Therefore 55.6 moles of H2 occupies 1244 litres. 889 grams of oxygen gas contains 27.8 moles of gas.… Read more »

Dr Kingslee Spurling
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Dr Kingslee Spurling

its just the ideal gas law at work do the math yourself if you are capable at it, i have had all my calculations confirmed by the csiro

liam
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liam

Dr Kingslee Spurling,
Did you make up all those numbers without reference to standard texts on the subject? Hydrogen burns at a maximum temperature of 3080K. Those temperatures you’re quoting are fantasy. Perhaps you are confusing temperatures on the sun with those here on earth.

No vehicles are water powered. They are hydrogen powered.

Dr Kingslee Spurling
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Dr Kingslee Spurling

Waterpowered engines is no fantasy but a reality it takes 1 amp for 1 hour of dc current to make 6 litres of gas a at 1 bar, it has an expansion ratio of 1729/1 and 1 litre of water will make 2039 litres of gas. combustion temperatures between 6,000 and 600,000 deg.C If you filter the nitrogen out of the inlet air this gives a drastic increase in efficency

RDMofDavao
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RDMofDavao

I understand that your approach is less to be successful, remember no person knows everything of what other person knows, mostly of the discoveries or invention details made after experimenting in so many ways.

Don’t be so dependent your thinking on vacuum, vacuum is always empty, you will do nothing like an empty head.

Geoff Fritz
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Geoff Fritz

It is not a matter of harnessing. Energy gotten out of a machine must be replaced, and in a closed system that is not possible. We are not alive due to free energy – we are not in a closed system either – energy comes from the sun.

You mustn’t confuse an open mind with an empty brain.

RDMofDavao
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RDMofDavao

What I mean is just a matter of harnessing to have perpetual motion machine. because we are just bound of what we have seen today or referred to the systems at works, that’s why we stick to that reason. Today’s technology it was impossible hundreds of years ago. if you think it deeply we humans, you’ll come out that we are just like an organic robot alive suppose totally by free energy.

Geoff Fritz
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Geoff Fritz

You are confusing perpetual motion with a perpetual motion machine. And that is the problem with all free energy proponents – they fail to grasp even the most basic aspects of the debate.

Try and understand the concept of “machine” and you’ll be able to move on.

As for the “Ark of the conenant [sic]” rubbish there goes any chance of a reasoned debate.

RDMofDavao
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RDMofDavao

What we have today is not yet totally perfect, there are a lot of things to discover, that is why every now and then there are things that will come out. Like the Ark of the conenant, base on the discriptions it is very powerful but yet no can prove how it works, so we called a hoax? I think no, there were secret of the gods on how they made impossible things on earth. There will be a God given gift to come out anytime. I believe in perpetual motion, if there is no perpetual motion then we don’t… Read more »

Geoff Fritz
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Geoff Fritz

It is not about semantics. The definition of free energy is only about isolated systems. A device that is powered by energy from any open system is not free energy.

“As everybody knows there are no closed/isolated systems in nature.” – try telling that to anyone promoting free energy such as magnetic motors and water powered engines.

You need to sit down and have a quiet think about what people believe.

Synthesis
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Synthesis

@#9 by Geoff Fritz
If I take your definition for “free energy” then I have the same opinion as you do. So I see a issue of semantics here. 🙂 Till we don’t have the same concept for FE our discussions are useless. Try to read any FE info from now on using my definition. Don’t stick to the isolated system paradigma. As everybody knows there are no closed/isolated systems in nature.

Geoff Fritz
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Geoff Fritz

Your analogy of the researcher is not evidence of anything “Free energy” by definition is energy from no where – refers to an isolated system and thus the first and second law of thermodynamics apply – and that is why no free energy device (a perpetual motion machine) will ever work. Drawing energy from the ether or vacuum or what ever you want to call it is not “free energy” – you may as well call solar energy “free energy”. You are confused by definitions. Stan Meyer did nothing other than electrolysis – he was a proven fraud. Anyone who… Read more »

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Synthesis

@ #7 by Geoff Fritz on January 11, 2011 – 4:19 am “Non-scientific sources are unacceptable. No references to free energy sites or vanity press publications.” I don’t want to convince you giving references. I don’t try to make a literature composition. There were cases in the established science when some researchers cited and used scientific work of the others, older than them in the field, that later was demonstrated to be a fraud. A recent case was in the field of medicine, when a researcher falsified the statistical data collected about the eficiency of a drug. What is very… Read more »

Geoff Fritz
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Geoff Fritz

@ Synthesis – cite references that show Myer’s method used different amounts of energy to split water into H2 and O2 compared to the established means. Non-scientific sources are unacceptable. No references to free energy sites or vanity press publications. What you have described “…in my opinion SM method taps Tesla’s “negative energy”” is classical belief over reality. Ask yourself why no one has ever demonstrated under laboratory conditions anything other than the standard energy involved in water dissociation and combustion of the products? Stan Meyer was promoting free energy which does not exist. What on earth has a worker… Read more »

Synthesis
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Synthesis

@Geoff Fritz “3. The energy required to split water into H2 and O2 is the same as is recovered according to all science books. Laboratory tests prove it to be so.” That’s correct if we talk about the common known electrolyse. Stanley Meyer’s method is not an electrolyse. If you would have read the Stanley’s patents you would have seen that in sereral places it uses something like ‘by means of a non-electrolytic process”. The lab tests you are talking about don’t use SM method but the classical electrolyse which is described by Faraday’s law. In my opinion SM method… Read more »

Geoff Fritz
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Geoff Fritz

I think the blurb for the video says it all: “Daniel’s car is probably, from what he says, based on the same principle as Stanley Meyer’s car. He converts water to the two gasses (H2 and O) by splitting it using a certain electrical frequency. It’s well known among the free energy groups that hydrogen generators can be made this way, and the fun part is that the power that the water splitting system uses is smaller than the power it outputs (like it does in the case of DC current applied to the same water).” 1. Stan Meyer was… Read more »

FlasherCo
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Nice…

DanielDingel.com
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Mr. Dingel’s official website is now online at DanielDingel.com where some of his personal files have been digitized and made public.