How To Build a Free Energy Magnetic Generator (Mini Romag)
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By on February 6th, 2008 |
The Mini Romag free energy generator from Magnetic Energy uses the principle of moving magnetic flow named “the magnetic current” for generating electrical power. According to Magnetic Energy this generator is able to produce 3.5 volts, 7A DC ( about 24 Watts ) of free electricity while its generate sufficient power to sustain itself…
This generator need to be started by an external motor during about 42 seconds at 2100 RPM. After this charging process, when the energy flow is established in the Romag generator, the motor can be removed and free electrical energy can be used.
The Romag generator is a new revolutionary concept which generates electrical energy without using the first flow of current generated by magnetism, it uses only the untapped natural resource of the magnetism…
HOW THE UNIT WORKS :
The here disclosed 3½ volt, 7 amperage magnet motor/generator must be charged up by driving the main shaft at 2100 RPM for 42 seconds. This charging process manifests as magnetic energy within the six coils of copper wire, the copper tube supporting these coils and the copper coated steel wires wrapped around the magnets. This charging is accomplished while the six coil connection wires, Part #22, are making contact and setting up their alternating magnetic poles. After the 42 second charging time one of these coil connection wires must be opened and this circuit again completed through an energy draw at what could be called 7 amps. See load Part #23. As current is drawn from the six coils, this draw sets up magnetic poles which are a response between the rotor magnets and the coils. This response then causes the main shaft to be rotated by the 12 permanent magnets as they attract and build a release field. Then the driver unit (hand crank) is disconnected allowing the unit to rotate with the load being the activating driving force.
The fields of the magnets must be maintained during their spin movement. These magnetic fields which are encapsulated are achieved by the wiring system. The attract/release of the magnets is a function of several factors. First, the magnets attract field between north and south is completed by taking a crossing path of attract (top of one row to bottom of next, etc.). This action has the effect of fields blending into fields, and a hold—back attract does not happen. Each time a magnet set passes a coil an interchange of like energy between the coils around the magnets and the generating coils sets—up neutral polarities which are ‘release fields’ and prevents a hold—back attract.
One important magnetic assembly is the circuitry which allows this interchange of energy. This is a recycling of a stabilized magnetic/electro energy not electro/magnetic because the field of force is not a case of electrical input, an input that created the magnetic energy, but rather a build—up of magnetic energy which caused an energy thrust.
In further defining the workings of this unit it is important to understand that although electrical and magnetic (energy) work with similar attitudes, the manner in which they work sets—up a differing energy effect. One of these effects is that magnetic structures want to share their f1ow, compatible to the Universal Force, while electrical flow argues, (short circuits, sparks, etc.). Because of this fact the working responses (within the unit) take place, how they are needed, and when they are needed which results in a functioning unit. There is a continuous transmutation process taking place whereby magnetic energy continually generates an energy that manifests a measurable current.
PARTS LIST AND CONSTRUCTION DETAILS
When building your first unit we suggest using the stated materials.
1) Aluminum Base Plate
2) Sleave Bearing, 1″ long, ½” inside diameter, oil impregnated brass.
3) 4″ long by ½” diameter Brass Shaft
4) Brass 2″ diameter Rotor, 1—3/4″ long
5) Six rotor slots, each 1—3/4″ long by .260 deep by 23/32″ wide. These slots are spaced exactly 60 degrees apart.
6) One slot cut in center of Brass Rotor, 360 degrees around, ¼” wide by 5/16″ deep.
7) 12 slots (formed from the six slots as the 360 degree cut is made). Each slot is lined with .010 thick mica insulation.
A total of 228 pieces of U—shaped .040 thick copper coated steel wires. Each slot (Part #7) has 19 pieces of these wires fitted into the Mica, thus these wires do not contact the Brass rotor. The lead edge of these wires is flush with the Rotor’s outer surface and the trail edge protrudes 1/8″ above the Rotor’s outer diameter.
9) Eleven complete turns of .032 thick copper coated steel wire. These 11 turns or ‘wraps’ accumulate to 3/8″ wide and the same pattern is placed around all 12 magnets. When placed into the bent wires #8, they are a snug fit making firm contact.
10) Are 12 pieces of .005″ thick mylar insulation inserted into the cores of the wires #9.
11) 12 permanent magnets, insulated with the mylar, to not contact wires # 9. These magnets measure 3/4″ long, 5/8″ wide, 3/8″ thick and are made of a special composition and strength. Alnico 4, M—60; 12 AL, 28 Ni, 5 Co, bal Fe, Isotropic permanent magnet material cooled in magnetic field, Cast 9100 TS. 450 Brin, 2.2 Peak energy product. When inserted in the rotor the outer faces of these 12 magnets are not to be machined to a radius. The center of these magnets pass the center of the coils with 3/32″ clearance. The edges, where the wires are wrapped, pass 1/32″ away from the coils. This ‘changing magnet spacing’ aids in not only the release cycle but also contributes to rotational movement. (Sharp magnet edges which are facing the coils are to be sanded to a small smooth radius.)
12) Magnet polarity placement into Rotor.
13) Connection pattern for wires wrapped around magnets. The 12 wire wraps are divided into two sections, upper and lower of six each. There are no connections between these sections. The magnetic flow direction between the upper 6 wraps and the lower 6 wraps is attained by the ‘flow direction’ as shown in Figure 5. Viewing Figure 6 shows the wires wrapped around the magnet starting at the top ‘north’ half and then after 11 complete turns the wire exits at the lower ‘south’ half. As this wire then goes to the next magnet it arrives at an attract wire which is its ‘north’ side. Thus all wires get interconnected from south to north magnet half or north to south magnet half. The actual connections should be crimped copper clips not solder with insulation tubing to prevent contact to the Rotor body.
14) A .030 thick copper tube (stiff material) 2″ long by 2½” inside diameter.
15) Are six slots cut at the top of tube #14. These slots are 5/8″ wide by 1/32″ deep spaced at 60 degrees apart.
16) Are six slots cut at the bottom of tube #14. These slots are 5/8″ wide by 5/16″ deep and in line with the upper slots #15.
17) Six copper tube mounting points.
18) Acrylic ring to hold Part #14, measuring 3—3/4″ O.D., 2¼” I.D., 3/8″ thick bolted directly to Part #1. This ring has a .030 wide groove cut ¼”deep to allow the six copper tube mounting points, Part #17, to be inserted.
19) A .002″ thick plastic insulation paper to be placed around the inside and outside of Part #14.
20) Are six coils of insulated copper wire, each coil having 72 turns of .014 thick wire. Each coil is wound with two layers, the bottom layer to completely fill the 5/8″ wide slot with 45 turns and the top layer to span 5/16″ wide with 27 turns. To be sure each coil has the exact wire length or 72 turns, a sample length wire is wrapped then unwound to serve as a template for six lengths. A suggested coil winding method is to fill a small spool with one length then by holding the copper tube at the lower extension, then start at the plus wire in Figure 2 and temporarily secure this wire to the outer surface of the tube. Next, place the pre—measured spool of wire inside the tube, wrapping down and around the outside advancing clockwise until the 5/8″ slot is filled with 45 turns. Then, return this wire back across the top of the coil for 15/32″ and winding in the same direction again advance clock—wise placing the second layer spanned for 5/16″ with 27 turns. This method should have the second layer perfectly centered above the first layer. After winding this coil, repeat the process by again filling the small spool with another length of pre—measured wire. A very important magnetic response happens as all six coils have their second layers spaced as disclosed.
21) This number identifies the top view of the second layer.
22) Connection pattern for six coils. When the unit is driven at start—up (hand crank) for 42 seconds at 2100 RPM, all six jumper wires must be together which means the plus wire goes to the minus wire connected by the start switch. After 42 seconds the load is added to the circuit and the start switch is opened. To double check your connections between the coils, note that the finish wire of coil #1 goes to the finish wire of coil #2, which is top layer to top layer. This pattern then has start of coil 2 (bottom layer) going to start of coil 3 (also bottom layer). When the copper tube with the coils is placed around the rotor, the distance from any magnet to any coil must be identical. If it measures different, acrylic holding shapes can be bolted to the aluminum base, protruding upward, and thus push the copper tube in the direction needed to maintain the spacing as stated.
23) Wires to load.
24) Wires to start switch.
25) Rotational direction which is clock—wise when viewing from top down.
26) Acrylic dome for protection against elements.
27) Coating of clear acrylic to solidify rotor. Do not use standard motor varnish. Pre-heat the rotor and then dip it into heated liquid acrylic. After removal from dip tank, hand rotate until the acrylic hardens, then balance rotor. For balancing procedure, either add brass weights or remove brass as needed by drilling small holes into rotor on its heavy side.
28) Insulation tubing on all connections.
29) Shaft for start purposes and speed testing (if desired).
This concludes the parts list for the Mini-Romag.
This simple unit demonstrates profound concepts and has a surprising number of applications. Remember, it must have a load to work, something that attracts magnetic energy. Build this unit and explore new possibilities with us.
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Dec 9th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
Dear Sir/madam,
I want to construct a MINI ROMAG
IF You can supply the required material pls send the price details to yogishakoppa123@gmail.com
Dec 16th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
You can also send me the price on a complete kit if you have one put together. This could be scaled up with an dc to ac invertor and retifier. Would be interesting to see what we can do with it. I could also help get you free money for research with a debit card program my wife and I are creating to help the people of this world. Please email me back when you have time.
Thanks in advance, Leon
lrockets@shaw.ca
Dec 16th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
Opps, this last message I forgot to put it is about your MINI ROMAG, Sorry and thanks again
You can also send me the price on a complete kit if you have one put together. This could be scaled up with an dc to ac invertor and retifier. Would be interesting to see what we can do with it. I could also help get you free money for research with a debit card program my wife and I are creating to help the people of this world. Please email me back when you have time.
Thanks in advance, Leon
lrockets@shaw.ca
Dec 26th, 2008 at 1:25 am
This is great. I was wondering if you could send me a price for a kit and a hard copy of instructions like this as well. I would like to see what it can do. Scaling up as a future project will be fun also.
Thank you so much,
Chris
Jan 29th, 2009 at 1:49 am
I’ll take a kit as well. I’ll pay for it, shipping and handling too. We can do great things with this.
christopherlee@live.ca
Feb 1st, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Dear sir I was wonder to hear this that we can build this kind of machine plz send me the detail price i think its hard to build it but i would like to buy this because we really need it because we are running a small school for poor childrens who can not afford it but in my country its very hard to have a electrecity for the school ecause its price is so high,I am anxiously waiting for your reply thank u
Feb 7th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Is there a kit with detailed instructions and if there is how much does it cost (shipping included). I am quite interested in this.
Mar 9th, 2009 at 1:05 am
I’m ready to buy right now, not matter what the cost.
IreneIba@rocketmail.com
Please someone send me details on alternative energy sources, I live in the mountains and there are no power lines for miles and am looking for the best alternative for free energy.
What is the best alternative?
I would like a magnet kit and windmill + solar panels if all of that would be enough.
Anything out there really powerful to supply me with all the energy I need in our large cabin built miles away from civilization?
Thanks
Please email
IreneIba@rocketmail.com
Apr 20th, 2009 at 11:01 am
till how long will it continue producing energy?? how long would it be before the second recharge “session”??
Apr 23rd, 2009 at 6:25 pm
Hi,
Can I be provided with a kit? How much is it?
Apr 23rd, 2009 at 8:34 pm
i think u are close ut i also know that your design is false.. i will give u a clue 2 build a free magenit genaritor.. think of this a pice of paper .. on 1 side it positive and the ovhet begitive.. now make it in to a loop .. next sheeet of paper wrap aronf it.. but make it so that boath nevitive face each other .. so first 1 id=s positive in side and negitave outdide.. the next 1 is negitive in dise dand positive out side,, and so on…. i will give u more detaid .. if u need them .. contact me..
Apr 28th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Hey Micheal o Brien!
Do You have some proper working instruction to built such generator. Please sent some more info : paul@czerwionke.com
Thanks !! good luck
May 5th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
By the well established principle of Conservation of Energy,
otherwise known as the Fisrt Law of Thermodynamics, this device cannot possible work. Any energy output measured will be less than the energy put into the device when “charging up”.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
So, you start it with batteries – right? Once it starts generating power, then what is the load (work) that you put on it? The only true measure of power output has to be actual work, whether it be charging a battery, or running a light bulb over TIME. Just measuring an output with a meter is not valid, since that could simply represent potential energy. Besides, you could be measuring something different. For example, if you measure just voltage going in and horsepower or wattage going out, you have missed an important comparison. Voltage means nothing without a measure of the current (amperage) as well. And a measure of power” either “wattage” or “horsepower” of a motor that is not doing any work is only a measure of potential energy.
Jun 3rd, 2009 at 2:58 am
I am also seeking realistic schematics to build a “free energy” magnetic motor. Can you help?
Jun 12th, 2009 at 2:15 am
A is A.
Are we forgetting the Law of Non-contradiction? Nothing is free.
Jun 28th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
If there is anyone posting on this site that has actually built one and it actually reduces your bill please contact me at mcstarznstripes1@aol.com
Jun 30th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
hi,
i am very interested to buy the components of this product. where i will get it?
how to stop it while running?
contact ku@vsnl.com
krishnamurthy
Jul 1st, 2009 at 2:06 pm
where do I get the magnets?
Jul 4th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
this device been around for awhile now years infact its what the magniscam is based on by scam im saying the sales part online this is given away free to the people and they profit.
Jul 7th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Dear Sir/madam,
I am very interesting on construct a MINI ROMAG to compare it with other equipments.
IF You can supply the required material please could you send me the price and details to gerardopers@gmail.com.
thanks
Jul 11th, 2009 at 6:54 am
are these plans your design and your drawings.i know of another company selling these exact plans woord for word. Diagrams are identical.
Jul 14th, 2009 at 11:05 pm
How can this plan be advertised as a free energy system that will save you money on your electricity bill, firstly the supposed output of the generator is most certainly not useful in any way, other than to indicate whether or not the generator actually stands up to its claims. Therefore the testimonials of immediate power savings on electrical bills have to be false. How about posting a you tube clip of a working model.
Jul 15th, 2009 at 11:27 pm
first off this is not mine it is open public info i never built one but do have the rotor so far and axle i was just letting everyone know not to buy that magniworks crap this is the product they are selling and its not the item they show in the video sorry for all the confusion as for me i just want to see the motor part run by itself ….
Jul 18th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
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Jul 19th, 2009 at 8:06 am
I need a mini light version of this consept. I also need an Electrical Engineer, (unemployed or employed) to work with me to get a project off of the ground. I am also seeking Marketing Specialist to assist in this venture.
Questions:
What is the total weight of this unit.
Can this concept be made lighter.
I will explain why when contacted.
ttsweredo@yahoo.com
Jul 20th, 2009 at 2:18 am
Thanks for the instruction on how to build a magnet generator.
I have a question that I have not found. How long will the magnets keep spinning before it loses its kinetic energy? Or would the pulling and pushing forces spin it perpetually?
Jul 20th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Dear colleges, don´t beleive in this model. Nobody can build it because the measurements are wrong. Is imposible to fit the magnets into the U shapes.
Aug 5th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
Hi,
what does it cost to be provided with a kit in nigeria?
Aug 14th, 2009 at 1:31 am
I built my own Magnetic Generator that I am currently using to provide enough power for all my kitchen appliances using the plans at:
Aug 16th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
Aug 27th, 2009 at 10:43 am
This does work. I use it. I bought after looking around. The product i bought did have simple instructions to follow, and there is assistance by email. All i can say is that if you buy here at you do get a 60 days no questions money back guarantee. When i bought it, twice i nearly went for the refund, but i decided aganist it, and now, after trial and error it works very well. This page, is my own, and i do get a commission, but only after your 60 days money back guarantee is over, which gives you enough time to try it out and make it a success or get your money back. Good luck, i hope more people use this technology to help reduce carbon emissions.
Aug 27th, 2009 at 10:53 am
P.S If anybody would rather not buy the ebook and build one themselves, then please do let me know by email, on my page, and depending on the number of inquries,i could build and sell them to you, but please bear in mind that i live in Kenya, East Africa so you will have to pay some heavy shipping charges and any tax when it comes as an import into your country. PLease leave a message at , and if you get a chance you can rate me to please.
Another alternative is that as i know how to make it work, those of you who buy the ebook, can then let me know you bought it from my site, and within the 60 day money back period, i can offer free support by email, or if YOU can call international, then you can call me for free advise on phone. But only in english.
Aug 27th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
the magniworks review just a couple above is a lyer and should be removed -spammer this will never power a kitchen but will produce power i hate when these people jump in with there products that are suppose to be free and try to make money the (august 14 post)
Aug 27th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
I saw this site about that magnetic generator=> does it really works?
Aug 28th, 2009 at 1:20 am
I built my own Magnetic Generator that I am currently using to provide enough power for all my kitchen appliances using the plans at:
Aug 29th, 2009 at 3:10 am
elena no it wont they are scammers
Aug 29th, 2009 at 3:46 am
magniwork review- link us to a site of your video of the device powering your kitchen like you said it does and make believers out of us, your selling the mini romag (not the generator the aussies built that will work) but your add shows their generator not romag your a thiefand should be blocked
Sep 1st, 2009 at 9:50 pm
Once assembled (which is quite easy) you can power your home for free.
Sep 3rd, 2009 at 8:07 pm
This is great. I want to help by helping you build it in
Canada. Please forward any instructions that you can give.
Thank you so much for this information.
Yours truly
Sep 4th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
I built my own Magnetic Generator that I am currently using to provide enough power for all my kitchen appliances using the plans at:
Oct 6th, 2009 at 6:26 am
Very nice post. I\’m currently using the following system to generate my own eletricity at home:
and I went from paying $178.40 (monthly) in electricity bills to $23.90 and I\’m very happy with it. I\’m gonna try to implement some of your ideas into a experimental model for my farm.
Oct 7th, 2009 at 9:25 am
is there a kit you can buy for this 50 hp romag generator?
Oct 9th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
Thank you all for your comments. 4 years ago a San Francisco daily, reported on this breakthrough technology, using magnets to power generators, for free, wherein the author of the newspaper article writes that very soon, this will be widely available. That was FOUR years ago. Now you we are at the stage,where using the information available, farmers co-operatives in remote parts of Africa are using it to generate electricity! It’s not about believing this is possible or not. Its about making the time and effort available. See it here at .
Oct 12th, 2009 at 10:48 am
I built my very own Magnetic Generator which I am currently using to provide enough power for all my kitchen appliances using the plans at:
Oct 13th, 2009 at 12:12 am
I am very interested in a megnetic generator kit if one is available. Also, will this be a working generator?
Oct 16th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
Hi my name is adam hagen my mailing adress is 13 institute terist west ousten chester le street county durham England dh21qs.I am trying to find out how to build perpetual motion magnetic generator,not looking for a bunch of bulls**t! if anyone can honestly help me with FREE advice or FREE diagrams of a free energy megnetic generator I would greatly apreciate the help.thank you
Oct 22nd, 2009 at 9:49 am
Energy is freely available but not for free, because you need devices to tap that energy and to distribute it to the end user. Solar Energy is free but you need Solarpanels to tap it and the are not for free.
Energy companies mean also jobs for hundreds of thousands if not millions of people. If they loose their jobs because you are not paying anymore, then you will still have to pay, because the goverment will raise tax to sustain unemployment.
Tax is something you don’t control, but you can control your power consumption.
Fossil fuels are coming to an end, and believe me, it wont last 100 years!. India, China, Brasil are emerging countries, If they start consuming oil like we do, in less than 30 years the wells will be empty. The first infrastructure hit by the coming oil crisis will be transportation. Think about what this means.
Trucks, Airplanes, Ships, cars, motorcycles…no more. And anything made of oil derivates like plastic will no longer
exist.
Nuclear power is still the cleanest energy source. The waste is a problem for many generations to come, but there is reseach done on how to reduce the halflife of radioactive waste. By injecting protons into the nucleus of an atom you can transform it into another element who’s halflife is a couple of years or even minutes.
For the time beeing nuclear power is the future. But we are consuming more and more of electric power. For example,think about all the mobile phone and battery chargers constantly plugged in. Not much power you say? Let s see:
USA: 300 Million people, if we assume 4 people per household, thats 75 Million housholds, we assume 4 mobile phone chargers. Chargers DO consume power even if you are not charging!!! I have one that consumes 7 Watts with no load. So we assume 4×10 Watts (when charging) x 75 Million households x 8760 hours per year = 26 280 000 000 kWh,
consumed by chargers! But there are a lot more appliences in house holds. You can estimate the amount of energy needed by
yourself.
Energy companies need to find more Uranium to keep the power plants running, but Uranium is limited like oil! We fight wars
for oil. We will fight wars for Uranium and other resources. And that will cost trillions that we will have to pay
with our money and lives !!! So instead of fighting energy companies we should cooperate.
Make your own power generator and SELL the surplus of energy to the companies who will distribute it. Make your energy
bill negative! SELL more than you consume! Lets get back to our calculation. We replace the 10 watts consumed by an
enegry surplus of 1kW in one hour! 75 Million x 1kW x 8760 = 657 000 TWh of saleable energy!!!
The future is electric! So let’s be constructive!
Oct 23rd, 2009 at 10:14 am
Hi Adam Hagen here again my email is ajhnfl2@yahoo.com
Oct 31st, 2009 at 1:40 am
Where can i find the magnets for this? I seem to be running into a brick wall. Thanks. Mike
Nov 7th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
I need to know who im dealing with. I need a contact, e-mail and phone number.
My contact is +2348033408977
Nov 9th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
Hello Everybody
) but you can switch languages…
here is an Address where you can find all kinds of magnets great website (German of course
Nov 18th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
i commend you efforts in releasing little information on magnetic generator pls if there is more detail i will like you notefy me.Thanks
Nov 18th, 2009 at 11:56 pm
Hello Everyone,
Never in the history of the internet has anyone mounted a more thorough propaganda campaign. The criminals (in my opinion) behind this really know how to manipulate search engines so it’s almost impossible to find anything negative about it. In addition, chat rooms are found and bogus success stories are posted, negative comments removed. What a clever and massive effort they have demonstrated. If they devoted all that effort for the good of mankind, we would all know their names. As it is, they must hide their identity. How do we know they are bogus? In all the history of mankind no one has ever produced a free energy machine that can be operated by an independent party. Never. Not one time. Only the so called inventors can ever demonstrate it in controlled conditions. Be real, what are the chances of you the reader finding one on the internet? One that you can easily build in your spare time and can be explained with elementary school level pseudo science? No really important discovery can be kept a secret for long. The technology for the atomic bomb was even published and available to the public (it’s been recalled since).
Don’t be so open minded that your brain falls out (not to mention your wallet as well).
Nov 19th, 2009 at 11:31 am
@Harvey and everybody
There is a profound misunderstanding wrt to free energie.
What is free energy? One cannot produce energy out of nothing. The total amount of energy in the Universe is constant, it means that you don t use up energy but that energy is tranformed in an other type of energy. The kinetic energy of a generator is tranformed into electrical energy and heat. And the energy to drive the generator can be magnetic, wind, solar aso. Even the human body is a source of energy that is fed by the energy contained in nutriments that is transformed into biochemical energy. Radioactive decay is also a form of energy that produces heat that is used to heat water that will drive a turbine that will drive a generator. In any case energy is not lost from the point of view of the Universe.
The energy in the Universe is freely available. Wind, solar energy is freely available. All we have to do is tap that energy. Unfortunately it is more or less difficult to tap. You need all kinds of machinery to do that. That s where energy companies come in. And they make you PAY for their efforts.
The question is now, why pay for something you can make yourself ? Today and thank s to internet more and more people have the possibility to make their own electrical generators or (I d prefer to say) ENERGY TRANSFORMER. The theory is there. Windgenerators, Solarpanels and now mangnet motors can be made by anyone. Not for free because you have to pay for tools and material but the energy you want to tap is FREELY available. No one is going to make you pay because the wind is blowing and the sun is shining.
Magnet Motors is what we are talking about in this forum. Magnets are not free energy. Someone had to make the magnets and so had to put enegry into the material to make it magnetic. The good thing about magnets release that energy back into space over a very long period of time. Neodymium mangets are said to be usable for 400 years, that s 16 generations! It is not bending physics or somekind of hyperdimensional mambo jambo.
If you make a magnet motor to transform magnetic flux into electrical flux you can be independant from energy companys. You make yourself independant from wind and sun. Wind and solar energy are not constantly available so you need to stock it in batteries which are expensive and pollute. With a magnet motor the energy is already stocked in the magnets and that stock will last for 400 years!
The difficult thing about magnet motors is:
to calculate the energy that they need to release to drive a generator to produce an ouput of a couple of kW.
how to place the magnet relative to each other such the attraction and repultion keep the motor turning without having to kick it peridiocally to avoid that the magnets attract each other until the motor stops. This is what people try to achieve.
There is no secret discovery! But of course governments that are lobbied by energy companies want to make it secret. They pay people to post all sorts of reports, documents to “proof” that this is all a scam and try to discourage anyone. It is all about money!! Imagine the multi billion dollar business they loose of everyone starts producing his own electricity and the millions of unempleoyed it will make! The impact on society would be enormous. Well, sooner or later this is going to happen anyway but that s another topic.
Energy is FREE. We only need to find means to tap and transform it at the lowest cost possible.
I m doing research on magnet motors and the goal is to come up with a simple way to make the necessary calculations by anyone so you can make your own magnet motor that is strong enough to drive a generator. But please don t tell anyone…it s a secret!
Nov 19th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Hi Miguel,
Having read your piece on this blog, itrust your opinion on the said topic and would appreciate a feedback o n your ongoing research.
Take care
Nov 20th, 2009 at 1:07 am
Miguel,
As I said – Not one of these “Magnetic Motors” has ever been demonstrated by anyone but the inventor/dealer under questionable circumstances. If some principle really works, it can be duplicated. Not the Romag. Not Magnaworks. None of them. They are all, in effect, perpetual motion machines which violate the first law of thermodynmaics. Mumbo Jumbo aside, this law has never been broken. Never. No exceptions (as Dr. Bronner would say
Save your money. Don’t fall for this scam.
You know it’s a scam when:
Inventor says big oil tries to suppress it.
Others cannot use or demonstrate it – especially scientists.
It violates the known laws of physics.
Perpetual Motion (motor runs a generator which produces enough power to run the motor plus extra).
Solar power? Yes – it works. Wind Power? Yes. Hydro-Electric Power? Yes.
As much as one hopes these scams work they still don’t. By the way – don’t try to get your money back from for any of the perpetual motion generator scams. You won’t get it even though there are some false testimonials out there saying they did.
Nov 20th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
@Harvey
I agree with you. Perpetual motors are also called overunity machines and thats where thermodynamics come in. You cannot build a machine that produces more energy than it consumes. But MagnetMotor are not really perpetual motion motors, because magnets loose theire energy over time eventually making the motor unusable. Magnets only deliver us much energy as has been put in. I m talking about a motor whose relative position of magnets produce a continuous attraction/repulsion moment leading to rotation. The stronger the magnets the more torque and speed you gain which can be used to drive an alternator(AC) or a generator(DC). Go to google and type “Perendev” . That motor is not an overunity machine it simply uses magents to produce rotation of a flywheel and torque.
Yes there is a lot of scam. I am very careful not to step into the trap. You are right. I have actually never seen one of those machines lighting up a bulb , not even a tiny LED. Even magnet motors are shown only rotating but I have never seen one that is actually attached to generator, not even a simple one like a bycicle dynamo.
I m just curious and want to try…for the fun of it. If it doesn t work…well too bad. At least I did n t try to make money out of scam like so many do. I m not investing a big a mount of dollars…just a few to build a model and see if the principal works…except that from the beginning I intend to drive a generator and wont stop as soon as I have a rotating but useless device.
Nov 20th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
Miguel,
I believe that you are sincere and honest and thanks for the reply. However, hundreds of years of physics says magnetism in a permanent magnet is not really stored energy at all. Attraction itself is not energy. If it were, we would have gravity engines as well. If a magnet attached to a ceiling pulls a hundred pound weight to it, you have to expend that energy to remove the hundred pound weight from the magnet – a big job. No net gain of energy at all. Same as dropping a weight off the roof. These “motors” suffer from the same problem. Every new scam has some reasonable sounding explanation for the average (not an insult) person. Those fortunate enough to be trained in physics see the flaw immediately but cannot easily explain it to everyone in short sound bytes. Most people don’t want a long involved explanation. Scammers love pseudo science. Although there is not enough room here to explain why but suffice it to say no one has ever seen the “Parendev” motor (or any other)of these motors work outside the claims of the inventors/investors. Google “Parendev scam” and read about how the inventor behaves like every other scammer and is under suspicion. If these motors worked overcoming the friction of ordinary bearings, you could then use the new ultra low friction bearings and use the saved energy to do work! This has never happened and never will (yes, never – until the laws of physics are repealed by a higher power).
Regards,
Harvey
Nov 20th, 2009 at 8:15 pm
@Harvey
Agreed, there is no such thing like magnetic energy. I was talking more about using energy to build the magnets. Actually you need to align the elementary magnets such that all magnet force lines go in the same direction. We should rather talk about magnetic force. The Perendev motor is a good approach. It is about magnets repelling and attracting in a way that a magnet is attracted by the next one before it can be hold back. As I said above I have never seen any motor actually driving a generator. Magnets need to be stong enough to overcome friction and the elecrical load on the generator.
Anyway I get your point.
Dont get me wrong I m as sceptical as you, but I want still to find out by myself if the Perendev motor works. Physics says no, I say well…lets try. In no way I am doing pseudo science. If I gave the impression, sorry about that. I don t have a problem laughing at my self, but it makes a lot of fun building machines. I m not the kind of person who stops trying things just because others tell me it wont work. Curiosity is what drives mankind.
I started posting here because unfortunately people’s motivation to do research seems to be screwing energy companies, getting rich (scam, fraud) and a misconcept of so called free energy.
We need to do everything possible to find alternative solutions to oil and try even solutions that seem absurd…we don t have the choice.
kind regards
Miguel
Nov 21st, 2009 at 2:50 am
Miguel,
Thanks for your comment. Remember, the Perendev motor has been around for at least 3 years and no independent person can produce a working model. The inventor is still trying to get more money from investors with his optimistic talk, but has no results to show whatsoever. The best large scale power generation we have is nuclear power. It’s not perfect (with the waste and all) but France has proven beyond a doubt it can be used safely. Once electric cars are practical in 5 to 10 years, nuclear power can be used to charge them thereby eliminating a major source of pollution. Wind power still needs many more sites to be a major contender as does solar. New nuclear technology can recycle about 90% of its waste but these plants are expensive. Currently, most of the world’s electric power is generated by dirty coal and those companies are really trying to prevent other energy sources from being used.
By the way, any claim to use water as a fuel for a car or to improve mileage is a scam. Water is not a fuel because it takes more energy to free the hydrogen and oxygen atoms (electrolysis)then you can get by using the gasses. It doesn’t matter what method is used to free the gases, it will always take more energy then you can get from the liberated gases (it’s that annoying first law of thermodynamics again).
Harvey
Nov 23rd, 2009 at 7:22 pm
@Harvey
Agree totaly. I happen to live in France
but I m not french. Nuclear is currently the cleanest major power we can have dispite the radioactive waste. I made my point about this in a previous post. But nuclear is not indefinitely available. Sooner or later we will run out of uranium, like we do with Oil.
Battery Cars are the future..maybe. They currently lack of performance and design, except for the “Tesla” Cars. They run on lithium batteries which have a guaranteed life time of about 5 years. BUT they are expensive and Lithium is a poison that attacks the nerve system. I can t imagine what is going to happen with our environment if we replace all fuel cars by lithium battery ones. Sooner or later those batteries need recycling if possible. How many countries in the world have the necessary infrastructure to recycle ? Those batteries would end up thrown away and pollute the environment.
Running cars out of fuel cells is not efficient either. You named the reason.
There is a french inventor who is developping cars that run off compressed air! And he will be selling them to india I think. They are not allowed in France(yet)…guess… Total/Fina/Elf !! Until the population does not put pressure on their governments nothing will change or do we want to wait until nature repairs itself doing some natural selection ?
We are all in a terrible situation and maybe we are living the end of our civilisation as we have known it for the last 100 years. Its not the end of mankind of course but there will be tremendous changes in our way of life and everybody will be affected, from poor (they already are) to the rich( just a question of time).
Finally I believe that anything we do today to preserve our planet is completely useless if we cannot control population growth. More people means more energy consumption, more extensive food production, genetically modified of course. We cannot grow infinitely in a finite space. You can t fill your house or appartement with thousands of people. Controlling population growth is a very delicate topic. Who decides when people have to stop making babies? At least for a while until the natural “departure” of people produces a negative trend in growth?
Our civilisation has been built on finite resources exploited by people who believe in infinite growth. Science and technology WILL NOT BE ABLE SO SOLVE ALL PROBLEMS!!! There is very good lecture from Dr. Bartlett, Boulder University, Colorado.
SO I think that we must try everything possible to preserve our planet. Right, no one made the Magnet motor work yet. But how many inventions have been put aside until someonelse picked it up and looked at from a different side and “TADAA!!!” ? Of course I m not claiming the be the one who saves the planet, far from that, but I like the idea. If I get it to run you will be the first one I will tell.
Miguel
Dec 6th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
I have used the Magniwork Plans with good results and posted a Magniwork Review at Has anyone else used these plans?
Dec 9th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
Dear Magniwork User,
You did not use the Magniwork Plans to get good results since the entire principle is bogus and can never be demonstrated in public. Your so called motor does not work. Your user id has the ip address of a Magniwork scam site – if you were smarter you would have hidden it better. In my opinion you probably work for the company and/or are trying to profit directly from sales of the Magniwork scam. I won’t bother asking you to demonstrate your working motor since you already have a list of excuses why you cannot. If it works then put it in an electric car for all to see. That won’t happen.
Everyone please note where I said previously that the only ones saying it works are those involved in the scam – never an independent party or scientist. The Magiwork User message proves my point.
Magnetism is not stored energy. Never has been, never will be. Having progressively stronger magnets raises the problem of what happens at the end of the line when the strongest one is reached? The weakest one would have to pull it away from the strongest one. Even if momentum carried it there, the strongest magnet would pull it back in reverse where it would stay permanently next to the strongest magnet. You would then need a crowbar (a non magnetic one at that) to pry it loose. That’s how the real world that we live in works. I didn’t invent it, it’s just how it is, so live with it and work within its limits.
Dec 10th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
I agree with Harvey.
I have never seen yet a magnet motor actually driving a AC generator to produce enough electricity to light even a tiny LED. Anything you might see on youtube has nothing attached to the motor. There is one example of the perendev motor that seems to start spinning as soon as you approach the clamps with the magnets, BUT again nothing is attached to it. The laws of conservation of energy clearly state that no energy is lost or gained. Motors may have a certain efficiency up to 90% the remainder is lost as heat(10%). So what comes in will come out in terms of energy conservation.
Most people are confused about the term free energy. Well, energy is free but you need to tap it somehow and that costs money. What people have in mind is the so called Overunity machine. That is a machine that produces more energy than it needs to run. And that is according to the laws of conservation of energy impossible!
The above mentione magnet motor is not a free energy machine because you need to spend a couple of bucks to build it. It is not a Overunity machine either because the current induced in the wiring encounters resistance and that will produce heat. 100% – heat is 100% – heat . PERIOD.
A magnet motor would have to produce enough kinetic energy (thru a flywheel) to produce x kilowatts to drive a generator that produces z kilowatts electricity – n kilowatts heat. z + n = x.
The efficiency beeing z/x. If you want to have 1 Kilowatt of electricity with 90% efficiency the magnet motor will need to produce more than 1.1 Kilowatts of energy because it also needs to overcome its own friction loss.
Free energy already exists(Sun, Wind, Water…)
Overunity is according to the laws of physics impossible.
Dec 11th, 2009 at 9:02 am
@ Harvey & Miguel
Wow, you 2 seem to be very intelegent…are you guys from this planet?..hehe. From the plans/blueprint or what ever they are, it seems to me that this thing is as hard to construct as the Rubics Cube (no pun intended) is to figure out. lol….
I agree with both of you on all your post.
But all the laws of Physics have not been proven to be true, most of them are (still) just theory, if all the laws of physics where proven to be true,There would be no need for Science as we know it… We would be ignorent to think or believe we know everything. The answer may be so simple its right in front of our face and we can not see it. perpetual motion might not be (absolutlly) possible. Nicolas Tesla must have felt like everyone thought he was crazzy then,and now we realize he was one of the most intelegent beings that ever lived on this Earth. Our Solar System mght not be (absolute) perpetule motion but, It has been in motion for 24 Billion years (we think). So why couldnt we make something that could stay in motion for,say like 300 days…lol…???
Dec 11th, 2009 at 9:16 am
opps sorry about all the typos and miss spelled words, grammer is deff. not my area…
Rubics Cube
Dec 12th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
Rubics Cube,
Your position allows you and others to be the continuing victims of scams like the Magnawork Generator. The laws of physics have ALL been proven in that they have never been broken. That’s the only definition of proven that we mortal humans have. The longer they remain unbroken, the less likely they will be. I agree that we do not know everything and there still can and likely will be new laws of physics discovered which may cause some old ones to be modified slightly, but you can be certain they won’t be discovered by someone promoting or buying a $50 set of scam plans on the internet. Tesla never violated any laws of physics, never wrote a new one, and still was a great innovator and inventor. As far as the solar system operating for all this time, the current laws of physics clearly show everything is slowing down exactly as predicted. It’s just that planets are so massive and move at such great speed that it takes billions of years for them to slow down (they get closer to the sun as they slow down). Why can’t we make something stay in motion for 300 days? We’ve done that and better. they’re called earth satellites. On earth, it’s more difficult because air, other friction, and gravity slow things down. In a vacuum, with near frictionless bearings, we can get something to spin for a long time. But if you tap it’s energy to do any work at all, it slows down quickly and the energy you get from it is always less then what you put in in the first place to get it to spin.
I do not want to discourage anyone from being creative in trying to help with the energy crisis. I’m just saying get educated in the applicable disciplines first. You cannot think out of the box unless you know what the box looks like in the first place.
Dec 13th, 2009 at 9:47 am
Harvey,
True very true, I am smart enough to know that with some sercing all this crap that people are getting scamed by is free to find so I havnt been a victem and havnt bought any of it, its sad that people are getting scamed, im not going to argue with you about the Laws of Physics it is very aparent that you know more about this subject than I do.
Dec 15th, 2009 at 2:36 am
Rubics Cube,
Thank you for your honesty and the compliment. My brother is a PHD physicist and I hope some of it has rubbed off on me
. As kids, we did endless scientific experiments. It is indeed wise to research something before spending money on it. Sometimes the number of scams seem overwhelming. We, as a society need people to become educated while remaining creative. Tesla was a good example of this as he was educated at the Realschule, Karlstadt in 1873, the Polytechnic Institute in Graz, Austria and the University of Prague. This helped him in being creative since he could easily eliminate those ideas that could never work, and come up with concepts that while new, had solid physics and engineering behind them.
Dec 15th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
To Rubics Cube..
I’m not particularly smart.But I received enough education to understand some fundamental facts in physics. True, physics is based on theories that are proven for now, until they may be replaces by new theories. We need people who know what’s inside the square but are curious and have enough courage to think outside of the square and try new things. Curiosity is one of the fundamental charactistics of humans. It produces pioneers, engineers like Tesla, Edison aso. Trying new things even if they seem absurd, sometimes reveal new opportunities. What is sad, is that pseudo scientists and uneducated people take advantage of technologies and use their intellectual misery to make money by scaming people who certainly are sincere but lack sufficient education.
So if one wants to avoid beeing a victim, he needs education of all kinds. Even if you will never be a great scientist or inventor at least you understand the world you are living in. You will be better prepared for the future and will not be scared of change. Our civilization has been ruled by fear. Understand the world and be free.
Harvey said it right. Even our planets, our sun and galaxy are slowing down. Our moon will someday hit earth because it is slowing down and the reason can be found here:
This is a link to thermodynamics. I don t understand everything but it explains why perpetual motion is impossible even in a system where there is no friction like in space.
We are facing big changes in our civilization and ANY new ideas should be welcomed, but not blindly accepted as facts. On the other hand we must not reject them blindly either just because they don t fit in our current view of the world.
The smartest thing we can do is give any idea its chance but with the necessary scepticism.
The great thing about internet is that millions of people share ideas and knowledge. Never before in history so many people had access to so much knowledge.(But its people’s choice wether to use that knowlegde for good or evil.) Never in history mankind was forced to think about it’s future, but hundreds of millions of people will be needed to make politicians change the way our world is ruled.
If we can build magnet motors( I m not talking about magniworks!!!) to run small house appliances like light, all kinds of phone chargers, computers and the very important beer cooler
in the workshop, we should do it and contribute to a cleaner and saver world. Even if you can produce only 500 Watts of energy…multiply that by the number of house holds world wide and calculate how many nuclear/coal power plants and nature distroing, micro climate changing water retention systems can be avoided.
We pollute by the number but the same number can make things chance….
Dec 24th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
it will take someone like myself to produce the energy device that you all speak of. This device is in the making now. And to comment on some of the other above comments, who cares if the main power companies shutdown,they have been overcharging us for years, i bet there families have never had their lights cut off in the middle of winter. They dont care about you so why care about some people that have millions if not billions of dollars in the bank.—When you move in a city you dont get a choice to pick where you buy power from-instead you have only choice -the local power company-they control everything-its about making money-its not about caring if you have power- if it was there wouldn’t be a power bill- they know you need it and that you can’t live without it. all those that feel me ( get your invention on) But im going to be the first to market it–roger out.
Jan 1st, 2010 at 7:00 pm
jonny 5:
If wishes were horses, beggers could ride.
Jan 3rd, 2010 at 3:44 am
if a person could fix the problems.could they patent and market a item for sale or would they be shut down.
Jan 6th, 2010 at 3:29 am
Big Chair:
This product does not have “problems”. It’s a complete fabrication and scam. It’s based on an age old myth of something (energy) for nothing (except your money that is). You can market anything you want whether it works or not. You can patent a machine even if it doesn’t work. The various governments are not anxious to shut anyone down unless enough people complain and force them to take legal action – which is very expensive to do. Scammers know this fact very well and make a good living because of it. If you are in the U.S., look at the ads towards the back of Discover magazine some time. You can find ads for a water machine “Said to Cure Anything”. The ad is so pathetic that it’s funny. Nothing in the ads makes the least bit of sense. This is similar to ads placed 150 years ago selling “Snake Oil” that can cure anything. Not much has changed since. If something really works as advertised, you might have success selling it. The BIG OIL companies could care less. This so called Magnaworks free energy generator duplicates the plans from a similar device around for many years. No independent party has ever gotten one to work – only the inventors or retailers report that it works. A sure sign of a scam. Big Chair, if thousands of people cannot make it work, what makes you think that you can? It would be easier to walk on water and rise from the dead.
Jan 6th, 2010 at 8:37 pm
As the people wrote here on top this generator business is only a scam and you dont get your money back.I’ve just being scammed by people selling me the info and as you ask them for a clearer explanation and better diagrams because you cannot build a generator on this info,they claim that you only want to get the info for free.What can you do with info that does’nt make sense to you,its absolutely useless.
Jan 7th, 2010 at 2:46 am
kevin ,you said go to Squidoo.com .Its just a con.I baught the plans from the guys that built the generator from australia. Google magnetic generators. you can see a bunch of utube videos about lots of them.
Jan 14th, 2010 at 12:51 am
@Harvey
This is a scam, I agree.
I just wanted to say that scientists have discovered that the universe is not slowing down at all. In fact, they discovered that it is speeding up!!! If all of our rules of physics are proven, why then, are they called theories? If no one has ever witnessed me eating, does that mean it is proven that I do not eat? We have theories that work just fine in our micro world but do not add up in the grand aspect of the universe or at the sub atomic level. We must not know it all then.
Jan 19th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
I believe in various of the Free Energy sca- er, schemes.
That you don’t find this in school textbooks is easily explained: WHO OWNS THE SCHOOLS? The Big Mistake the naive and ignorant make about Government is that Government is the Servant of The People- and that THEY are one of “The People.”
If this technology is firmly established in the hands of the common people, most of them will still be controllable, but many of them will not. To the Real Government- those who control things from behind the scenes, this will be “Chaos,” and Chaos is to be avoided at all costs (to the little people- not to themselves).
For every person who sets out Free Energy tech in a reasonable, comprehensible manner, The Agents and Assets of Oppression send out 99 of their own to sow confusion and discouragement. THEY CAN AFFORD IT; IT IS WORTH IT TO THEM!
Various companies sell all the different types of magnets. FIND THEM. Stop begging like spastic illiterate beggar children. Don’t you know how to buy stuff on the Internet? (Try not to leave a clear trail that leads to your house, lest you become a victim of a mysterious unsolved crime.)
The power from a free energy device is best used to charge up batteries, which can be drained through an inverter at will.
Anyone who knows anything about magnets knows that if you pack them in opposition to one another, they lose their magnetism. (I learned that in Primary School.) Someone said that they never saw any of these devices run for up to a year without demagnetizing their magnets. Obviously, their domains must mess up. It stands to reason this must happen. If the magnets are allowed to heat up, this will happen. So, they must be cooled as much as possible. Those who live in cold climates get free cooling! This is an uphill struggle. There are liars and deceivers at every turn.
None of the academicians (I work in a university) have any interest in working on this. Their future is already secure.
One professor went on National Television a couple of years ago, demonstrating a rotating magnetic free energy device. He was going to save Africa. He has vanished off the radar. No one can even tell me his name.
Colonel Bearden explained that “They” took Quarternion Algebra out of schools and replaced it with Tensor Algebra, so that the Free Energy application of the Energy Equations of Faraday, Maxwell, and others disappear. What students are shown are allegedly not these inventors’ original work. So you see that the Cover-Up is organized from the highest intellectual levels.
Jan 20th, 2010 at 2:06 am
Olatunde Aroloye (not a real name, one can only assume):
So there is a conspiracy to prevent free energy generators from being built? Your double talk is nonsense. Your logic cannot even be called logic. If you really believe what you are saying then you really should seek professional help. If you work at a university then I assume you are the janitor with delusions of competence.
Feb 1st, 2010 at 9:03 pm
I built a Magnetic Generator very easily using the plans at:
Has anyone else used these?
Feb 5th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
Troll:
Yeah!! So did I. I am now supplying free energy to the entire United States. I will include Europe as well if someone would send me 4 billion dollars.
Feb 7th, 2010 at 7:11 am
Well! somebody told me for the second time the other day about this magnetic power plant in youre back garden with leather parker knoll chair and masarate car to follow after negotiating with the local electric company, I didnt know about the scientific inprobabillities untill i read the chat from harvey Katz and miguel but my first response after recaling the first time my friend spoke of it was some time ago, was why is it still secret?,allso If someone was too invent such a device they would have two opptions from one or all the big mogels, The first of wich would be unlimited wealth wich would be placed in a swiss bank account in return for all information and rights for the said device the other of the two options would be waiting in the car with a pair of pliers.
Im affraid i am very sinicle about such things suddenly being allowed to appear and bounce around the internet for so long.
Some chap i got drunk with once was an American car tire magnet he told me they could quite easily make tires that last forever but they dont, The money that some of these allternative energie companies are making is Robery, sometimes i feel that a large percent of the whole global warming , colapse etc is exsagerated and fulled by the the desire to sell its feared inhabitants with stuff to calmm there guilty concense about them taking part in its demise.
I do my bit! But as has allredy been said There is a lot of S***ERS out there but unfortunatly the worst ones are so far inserted into oure lives that the other dont get a look in.
Feb 8th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
Y have a motor wich use a levitated stator in a vidate
christal chamber.the stator first is tuching 1 point
and y use ordinarly laser cheap to make it spin in the
vidated cristal chamber and after it gets to a great rotation per second y use an magnet external of the chamber to push the magnet wich is near the point that tuch and make the
stator to go levitated and y control the rpm speed by
microcontroler with light interrupted swich and it gets to a
extreme rpm and i have seen strange things happend at a
great rpm,things that go beyond my explanations.y am not sale anything and don´t need money from no one,y search people wich
want to help me get something good from this and even if y will make something someday to generat great amount of energy
y will publish free all of my papers on a large number of sites
in internet.if someone has balls try to stop me.
Feb 8th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
it´s frictionless.if someone whats to speak with me vacafericita@yahoo.com
Feb 9th, 2010 at 1:33 am
Chas:
A drunk once told me he was Jesus Christ. Maybe it was the same drunk you talked to. In any case, one should ALWAYS believe drunks in bars and give them all your money. Wait a minute – an American Tire MAGNET (not MAGNATE?). Maybe he could power a car with his tire magnet power.
Sebastian:
Why would anyone try to stop you? Well, maybe your mother should before you embarrass her with more of your bad English that no one can even understand. The internet is full of people promising to save the world. We never see anything productive from them. You can’t be more than 11 years old. Please, oh please, finish school and try harder.
Feb 11th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
dear Harvey Katz for shure you are one of the person
paid by bitches to coment shit.
better go to other forum and eat(sh..)what ever you want
because y don´t understand who the f… ask your opinion?
and also who the f… are you.
just some scum bag wich eat …. abouth other people work.
who said y want to save the world?
you think 2 sec later y guess because also you won´t
make stupid comments.
y am just a person wich want´s friends to speak to and
came with ideas,y don´t need your comments!
go f… you self with the magniwork sucker.
Y GUESS YOU ARE WORST THEN HE IS IN ALL THE ASPECTS.
and Miguel ,yo tambien soy en españa si quieres podemos
hablar vaca_fericita@yahoo.com
Feb 11th, 2010 at 11:08 pm
think this is not posible,y guess it is easy
y will soon post o video of my thinghy.
Feb 12th, 2010 at 11:59 pm
Sebastian:
Let’s look at what you wrote:
dear Harvey Katz for shure you are one of the person
paid by bitches to coment shit.
Why would I get paid when I am trying to save people from wasting their money on plans that never work?
better go to other forum and eat(sh..)what ever you want
because y don´t understand who the f… ask your opinion?
and also who the f… are you.
I am someone who cares when people are cheated out of their hard earned money. Also, I live in the USA where free speech is guaranteed in our constitution. I see that you would like to keep me from speaking freely. I guess it’s because that’s how you were raised. Get over it.
just some scum bag wich eat …. abouth other people work.
who said y want to save the world?
you think 2 sec later y guess because also you won´t
What other peoples’ work? Not one single person has ever made one of these so called free energy machines work except for the wild claims of the scammers themselves.
You want people to go to a web site where some scammer tries to get more money from people to invest in his scam. First, he turns a few flywheels with his finger – what a genius he is. Then he has some so called motors spinning on a table. Any educated person would know he has an AC magnet under the table which would cause a magnet on a bearing to spin where you would see no wires. How do I know? Because no one but him can get it to work. Any invention must be repeatable by others or it’s a fake. All educated people know this. Also, he speaks in Russian. Any scammer with brains would know the real money is in the English speaking world and that the Russians and Nigerians are famous for trying to use the internet to scam us.
Look, Sebastian – I did not call you any names or use any bad language. You should learn enough science to understand that these so called free energy machines are ALL a scam. I know we would all like them to work but that does not change laws of physics that have never been broken. If you went to school at one of the fine Russian universities, you could learn English such that we could understand you, and you would realize how only ignorant people believe that these free energy machines can work. Did you qualify to go to a university?
Are you smart enough to realize I am trying to do you a favor?
Feb 13th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
Very in depth article, I have been interested in the freedom that producing your own energy would bring. With the state of the world as it is and the energy companies rapid rise in prices it is the way to go.
I myself have looked at this as an option it seems a good safe solution to use alongside solar power for your own home
Feb 13th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
dear Harvey.Y understand your point of view that you want to
help others to don´t whaste their money and y know that USA
constitution sustain the right to free speech.
but let´s think a bit.
just a bit.
why ANS whant´s to use some cryptographic chip made especialy by them
in all the electronichs like phones or other stuff that use
encrypted data transfer?
easy…so they ca listen all people and intercept all private data send between two or more person.
y know this because some time y´we work in this area like hobby.
this is a fact search in your lovely google
other one is the rfid chip they want to implant,the code it send´s begin with 666,why this number because also y know
much abouth rfid and in a rfid sistem you can send any number.
you can be a good physician but y am a good informatician.
and y guess you read Bible…and also know this is the number of mamon in the juish religion.
also,my dear Harvey do you know that bush ex-president and it´s family are gods in oil domain.
you american fellows cut the founds for tesla´s job when he
start made that tower to deliver energy for free.
this is a fact it´s not lie.
y am not interested in free energy,this is a point you are
presume you don´t understand.
y don´t want to make some perpetual motor,y know the laws of
thermodinamics.
y search for a motor which get´s a higgher randament,or a motor wich convert better a kind of energy in another.
Feb 13th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
Sebastian,
Thank you for your response. It seems that you are a nice intelligent person after all!
Although governments are necessary, don’t turn your back on any of them.
As far as Tesla goes, some scientists here built a very large Tesla coil to test his theory of transmitting energy after reviewing his papers on the subject (Discovery channel special called Mad Electricity). Our government took all of his papers just before world war 2 and then released them some years after. We can never be sure if they released them all. Anyway, the papers on energy transmission through the air were released and were recently tried with a 1/4 scale Tesla coil. As expected, it did transmit a small amount of energy a short distance. The conclusion is that there is no known technology or reason to believe it could be made to be practical due to energy losses through the air at distance not to mention possible health risks to people. The amount of energy required would be impracticable and wasteful. Remember, every great scientist has some ideas that can never work. Tesla was a great scientist and inventor and is credited by our supreme court with inventing the radio. Most people believe Marconi invented the radio but, as I recall, he used about 17 of Tesla’s patents in it. Marconi did work very hard on perfecting this and deserves some credit, but the US supreme court credited the rights of the radio patents to Tesla and his descendants. Tesla was also responsible for our use of AC current (his greatest contribution which he donated his rights for free) and published the theory of radar. Unfortunately, it would be many years before technology could be developed to implement it (radar).
Take care.
HK
Feb 14th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
Hello Everybody,
can somebody help me with contact to producer of home free energy generator ? I want to purchase generator with min output 24KW. Thank you in advance… bdi
Feb 15th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
Harvey Katz wrote on 21/11/09:
>>>By the way, any claim to use water as a fuel for a car or to improve mileage is a scam. Water is not a fuel because it takes more energy to free the hydrogen and oxygen atoms (electrolysis)then you can get by using the gasses. It doesn’t matter what method is used to free the gases, it will always take more energy then you can get from the liberated gases (it’s that annoying first law of thermodynamics again).<<<
During the 1970s, I remember seeing a serious newspaper article announcing: "MOTORISTS TO SOON FILL UP WITH MILK." The piece went on to explain that there was an experiment to use an ultrasonically emulsified mixture of petrol and water to fuel cars being tried out. This would presumably increase mileage and reduce pollution. This was all I ever heard about the project,which I believe happened somewhere in Great Britain.
I do not believe that everyone advertising water-for-fuel is a scam artist. I believe that some people have discovered things and know things that those of us whose knowledge stops with what "They" let us learn in school do not yet know.
Feb 15th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
How can there NOT be a “conspiracy?”
The energy monopolists are going to just sit there and let their $Billions per year unnecessary profits go down the drain without a struggle? THEY’D BETTER “CONSPIRE!”
I was very excited to hear in the min 1990s that someone had found that the simple way to produce Cold Hydrogen Fusion was by electrolyzing Heavy Water (i.e. Deuterium Oxide). Within months we were building castles on the Moon, so to speak! The Oceans would provide enough energy for thousands of years.
Then, suddenly, they began to tell us that it was all a silly mistake! These scientists had rushed into print without checking their figures, and had stupidly omitted some decimal point, where they were not producing fusion at all- but just made a very expensive coffee warmer, is all.
Is it easier to believe that otherwise sensible men made such a silly mistake, or is it more likely that they were given a simple choice: “Discredit yourselves, OR DIE!!!”
It doesn’t take 10 minutes on Google to verify that I am using my real name, despite the inadvisability of doing so. I don’t think I have anywhere near the status that CIA Black Ops would come knocking politely on my door- with M60 D.U. to give me the choice to “Shut up, and DIE!” or else to “Shut up, and DIE!”
Since the Christmas Bomber (MK-ULTRA) setup hoax, my country has been put on the list of terrorist-supporting nations. (WE- who can’t even support our old-age pensioners!) Maybe it is a CIA roundabout way of finding an excuse to drop a bomb on my house (which they must have located through ECHELON,) claiming that they thought a drone saw Osama was buying a bottle of Coke there.
Feb 16th, 2010 at 3:26 am
Olatunde Adesegun Aroloye,
Sorry – It was just that you have a very unusual name. The way I test for a scam is simply can other people duplicate whatever the reported effect is and does it violate the known laws of physics. These two rules taken together have always exposed scams. With cold fusion, these people made a genuine error. How do we know? They were honest enough to publish all the details. Other people then tried it and located their mistakes. No one had to threaten to kill them since they expected others to duplicate their results. There are many people who will simply not respond to those kinds of threats. Many others reveals those threats on their deathbed regardless. That’s how science works. Even if something appears to violate the known laws of physics, if others can make it work, we will figure out why and change the laws of physics. With water as a fuel, no one has ever shown that it is possible to liberate hydrogen and oxygen with less energy than can be obtained by burning the hydrogen and oxygen. It also is against the known laws of thermodynamics that have not yet been broken. If someone discovers this, let them publish it for all to try. Do big companies try to hide things? Absolutely! Are they any good at it? Not in the long run. Don’t give the big companies the power of gods. They are not that smart or competent. For some reason, great discoveries are usually discovered by multiple people in the world even though they are not aware of each other’s work. Also, all large companies have some honest people working for them and the secrets are virtually always disclosed soon after. People were saying the electric car was being suppressed yet the Tesla is now on sale with over 700 units delivered. General Motors (see movie Who killed the Electric Car?) will soon be selling the Chevy Volt, a car superior to the old EV1 by far, and for much less money then the EV1 cost in the first place. The EV1 simply was not ready or financially ready to be sold. It was just a research project. Also, Nissan will be selling its electric car, the Leaf, this year. So much for THAT conspiracy. Ok – there IS a conspiracy against using water as fuel – it’s called the second law of thermodynamics. Let’s put all the Scientists and mother nature in jail!!
See conspiracies where there are none does not make one very believable. The scammers are the first ones to cry conspiracy as a smart way to attract investment money for scams.
How to spot a scam every time:
1. Inventor claims the big companies are trying to suppress his invention.
2. No one else can make it work outside his control (hey – drive a car across the country with only water as a fuel and do it in public – no need to reveal any secrets).
3. It’s never quite ready yet – we just need a little more money (like YOUR money right now).
Take Care – I used my real name as well
HK
Feb 24th, 2010 at 10:32 pm
Everyone:
Example of genuine breakthrough versus a scam:
The recently announced Bloom Box (Google it). It creates electricity directly from any flammable gas with no flame – uses air circulation to supply air (oxygen). We know it’s not a scam because eBay, Walmart, Coca-Cola, and FedEx, all of them big-name companies (also including Google), are beta customers of Bloom’s distributed energy fuel cell technology (which was the subject of a 60 Minutes profile on Sunday and various other stories since then). They have been using the box for up to 9 months generating electricity for about 3 to 5 cents per kilowatt cheaper then what the electric companies charge. A relatively small unit can power a house but the price is still too high for the individual home owner. The power companies never tried to interfere and indeed may be possible customers themselves.
Now let’s look at the infamous magnetic energy generators. 1. No beta sites in any known companies. 2. Continual whining for more money and saying the power companies are against them. 3. Won’t (can’t) deliver a working unit to anybody. 4. Won’t (can’t) deliver a working unit to anybody. I repeated that last point for those that still believe in magnetic energy since they are a bit slow and are to be pitied. You have to pay money for plans so YOU can be blamed for it not working when you build it. The same can be said for using water as a fuel.
Notice the Bloom box is delivered as a working unit, and the company has fixed any problems for FREE (clogged air filters).
That should settle the belief in magnetic energy generators for all but the stupid and those criminals trying to still make money off this scam. But don’t fear, one of these criminals is sure to post that they bought the plans and it’s working great.
Mar 6th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
Hey Harvey,
It is Les on this side, but you can call me anything you want except for “late to dinner” please. I finally finished reading this page of comments and loved all of the comments you had to say. They where the best when you were replying to Sebastian. I have been looking up information on solar energy, wind turbines, hydroenergy, and also magnetic energy to help my family and I become more ecofriendly. Do you believe all magnetic energy is bogus or do you think it is possible. You seem to be alot more intelligent than I am, but I won’t learn unless I keep trying to figure out topics I do not know about. I was trying to read Sebastian’s comments and could have sworn I was trying to figure out a cryptoquip. Sorry Sebastian, I only know English and a little Spanish. I can’t wait to see what new comments appear in the next month or so. Everyone, try to enjoy the conversation and Sebastian, lay off on the profanity. It just makes it sound like you have a smaller vocabulary than you really do.
Mar 8th, 2010 at 1:40 am
Hi Iceyyou,
Thanks for your comment. Magnetic energy is absolutely bogus. No one outside the inventors themselves have ever claimed to make one work. They cannot deliver a working unit to anybody. Never. Not one time. There will be people that post that it works but they are the criminals trying to get your money. They try to confuse the issue. Their only purpose is to get your money. We’ve all seen test solar powered cars. We’ve all seen battery powered cars coming on to the market. We’ve all seen hybrid cars on the market. We’ve all seen wind power generators. No one has ever seen a magnetic power generator working in the hands of a regular person not associated with the so called inventor. No power company is trying to stop wind power or solar power and these are really being used every day. The magnetic generator people like to claim that the big power companies are trying to stop them. Why would they need to? It doesn’t even work.
If you buy plans for a magnetic generator this is what always happens:
1. After you try to build it and cannot understand the plans, they will blame you and tell you it’s your fault.
2. If you do build it, it won’t work – they will blame you.
3. You will NEVER get your money back no matter what.
4. Be careful. Someone is sure to post that they did get their money back or got it to work. This would be written by a criminal trying to steal more money from people with this scam.
The magnetic generator qualifies as a perpetual motion machine which can never be realized since it breaks the known laws of physics. These laws have never been broken. People have tried for thousands of years and have not succeeded. They never will.
HK