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A REAL and WORKING Magnetic Motor Spinning Indefinitely

working magnetic motor 300x196 A REAL and WORKING Magnetic Motor Spinning IndefinitelyOk, I saw this on Gizmodo (unexpectedly), and despite the fact that I’ve been blogging for five years now I’ve never actually seen something this amazing – the famous magnetic motor spinning by itself indefinitely, like this video shows.

Now, I don’t think there’s any trick involved, there couldn’t be, could it? Just watch the whole movie. If you see anything suspicious, let me know.

Magnetic motors have always fascinated me. I’ve even endorsed schematics of magnetic motors hoping that someday, someone will find the proper recipe and post it on youtube without being called names and accused of scamming people.

Of course, those magnets you see in the video will eventually wear out in years, but the concept is great – it could be applied even further with stronger magnets. Just see the video and shout your opinions out. I urge you to.

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Ovidiu has always been a fan of technology and Captain Planet. Unable to ignore the technical possibilities that exist nowadays, he started collecting and blogging about the most interesting news out there and saw that there were a lot of people interested in the same that stuff he was.

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28 comments
veto64
veto64

i would like to buy a small moter like this for fun.

is there anywhere a site where i can buy those small devices.

i don't have the time to do the handicrafts by myself.

thanks for link



AdrianDwerryhouse
AdrianDwerryhouse

so rather then the two i'll call them kick magnets top and bottom would having more, ie: either side, increase the speed or help with smoother spin. 


pablo
pablo

Would like to add some info here if it helps.  All of the magnets in that device operate in the repulsion mode.  The top magnet is polarized at its ends and repels the "armature" magnets.  The repulsion is strongest for the most widely spaced spaced armature magnets and weakest for the narrowest spacing.  If the top magnet were not raised, the armature would abruptly stop rotating at the transition from narrowest to widest spacing.  However, when top magnet is moved upward by the cam at the transition point, it is also repelled in the upward direction by the widely-spaced magnets.  As the armature passes that point, gravity pulls the magnet downward, repeating the cycle.  Note a similar process for the cam-operated shorter magnet at the bottom of the armature.  The magnets are all neodymium-iron-boron.  It would take thousands of years for them to be demagnetized down to half power.

jamiepusceddu
jamiepusceddu

ahahahahahah! I've just seen the oak on google. It was like I suspected. No Nobel price this time but a very good oak though!

jamiepusceddu
jamiepusceddu

I read more comments and someone argued that the motion is produced by the white weight being dropped down after having been lifted by an external force (the experimenter's hand). That makes sense but you have to account for frictions there too so the device should stop at some point and it doesn't in any reasonable time in the video so I believe there is a trick. Some external hidden power sources like a compressor or airflow. But it's very well disguised I must admit. By all accounts if such a device works the author should be applying for a Nobel prize. Why doesn't it come out for the honour? 

jamiepusceddu
jamiepusceddu

I'm thinking: wouldn't be possible that the video is genuine but as soon as you start to extract some power from the device you stop it so it doesn't run any longer? I'm not versed in Physics so don't make fun of me. I know this is against the 2nd principle of Thermodynamic

gemmakermz
gemmakermz

for those whom say not posible to make a magnetic motor-- your living on one. our solar syster is run/controlled by magnetic forces. the earth itself is a magnetic motor, its been running for a VERY long time taking 24hrs to revolve and 365 days for the travel around the sun. dont forget gravity is also magnetic in a different form. so mag motor already exists, now put your brains to work and make one that will put the oil barons out of buisnes.

LiveLikeNo1
LiveLikeNo1

I was imagining how you could advance the timing of the upper magnet in order to create much more momentum. This seems like a reality to me. 

botwire
botwire

Your not creating energy, it's is changing forms. Magnetic energy to mechanical energy. As long as the momentum has enough energy to lift the bar magnet to complete the cycle it would work. If lifting the bar magnet uses up all the stored momentum energy, it will not work. 

Chris
Chris

In the description on the Youtube page for that video, the uploader added the following, explaining it to be a hoax:


"ACTUALIZACIÓN (20/03/2013) En las fotos se observa que tiene un compresor de aire:
http://goo.gl/k5Wja
Gracias por los comentarios.

El aparato tiene un compresor de aire encima, dando la ayuda necesaria para que gire.
It has an air compressor above it."

Google Translate:

"UPDATE (20/03/2013) In the photos is seen to have an air compressor:
http://goo.gl/k5Wja
Thanks for the feedback.

The apparatus has an air compressor on top, giving the necessary help to rotate.
It has an air compressor above it."

scarednick
scarednick

REALLY? Indefinitely? 5 seconds? Sorry old thing this video has been around far longer than Feb 2013 and has been debunked by millions (although grasped at by ...sadly....many more). It is a hodge-podge (as are sthe majority of these either fraud or crackpot claims) of "stuff that does work"..that illustrates nothing, "stuff that LOOKS as if it works" (which may or may not support the final claims) and....utter garbage, which IS used to support the final claims. You are obviously looking for that5 pot of gold and it MAY be found, but I doubt that ib these days it will be in a garage. Those days have passed.

Bob the Builder
Bob the Builder

from Bob the builder...  Didn't anyone notice that the working model in the video was running backwards?  The principle of the hand powered model is that the magnets want to be closer together, so in the influence of the metal bar that closes the magnetic field, the force pulling the magnets toward the bar rotates the drum to the place where the magnets are closer together.  Picudo is correct about where the energy comes from in the hand powered model.  The working model is obviously a fake, easily done with a jet of air or some more complicated method.  On another note:  permanent magnets don't run down, that's why they are called permanent!  Heat will damage them by melting the structure and collapsing the alinement, but making them do work, if possible, wouldn't damage them.


Picudo Jones
Picudo Jones

The energy to move the wheel simply comes from the kinetic energy of the moving hand, not "from" magnetism.   If the person did not move the magnet the Wheel wouldn't move.  It's simply like pushing the Wheel with your hand, only through magnetic forcé.  No strange miracle here. 

QuantumSlipstream
QuantumSlipstream

Interesting, however the magnets themselves unless "recharged" using a renewable source just become a form of energy storage.

One possible workaround would be the use of a radioactive isotope such as 63Ni in the magnet to continuously regenerate the field..

Yves Laurin
Yves Laurin

In a way it make sense, he start with a linear motor, we all know it does work, the problem happen when you fold it to make it round, as it reach the end/start point, it will normally just stop there and that is why he his lifting the other magnet, if the force to lift the magnet is small compare to the momentum, it could work in theory

JPRichardson
JPRichardson

Sorry, this is fake. And I do not work for some evil corporation, it is just that magnets do not produce work.

TracyMGreen
TracyMGreen

Genius, however how to create enough force to convert to energy that can be used.  It will need to be 100 tines larger.  A perpetual turbine.

sjors
sjors

question is: isnt the energy thats needed to magnetize magnets greater than the energy we see here in movement?

valveman00
valveman00

@gemmakermz  Gravity is magnetic?  Where did you get that idea?  Also the video in the blog is fake.  No one has been able to replicate it.  It's fake like all these other magnet motor videos.

scarednick
scarednick

But surely the "motor" can run backwards if you use repulsion intsead of attraction. But yes I agree that the last one is a fake, because (apart from the obvious)  I have DLd this video and looked at it frame by frame, confirming what seems to happen: the rotor changes speed erratically throughout....and not just over each revolution.

scarednick
scarednick

Well from where I (sit) there are "linear motors" and "linear motors". Which ones do you reckon work?

LoneWolffe
LoneWolffe moderator

@Yves Laurin that's why it looks so compelling. i think i would try to change the cam arrangement, which seems to take too much away from the motion of the rotor. perhaps some shielded portion of the top magnet? i don't know.

on the other hand, even IF this works, what good is it unless you can attach something to it to make use of the motion? unless that happens, it remains a visual oddity. :/

scarednick
scarednick

You guys are talking about two different things. Yves is talking about manually lifting and lowering the magnet, which _arguably_ makes that machine work, I want to see a real demo and try for myself....Lone, you are talking about the cam-operated one. It does not work and is a fake. And it IS doing work...anything that moves requires energy, so IF that machine actually kept going, WITHOUT outside energy applied, it would be creating energy. Bujt we see a few seconds of video (hardly perpetual) of a machine that has quite erratic speeds, while supposedly under the influence of a constant force (its own system).

LoneWolffe
LoneWolffe moderator

@scarednick true, adding energy to the system, lifting the magnet by hand, points out exactly why this won't work.

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